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RE: [RELEASE] Amazon Prime Instant Video plug-in addon - jshackles - 2012-04-04 23:34
BlueCop - thanks for the great plugin. I've been enjoying it greatly for the last month or so. Yesterday I started getting the FLASH DRM messages and the content would not play. I just renewed my Prime membership yesterday so I was a little ticked off by this and wrote to Amazon customer service. Here is the response I got:
Quote:I'm sorry that the Prime videos are giving a Flash error with using the Xbox Media Center.
I'm actually pretty impressed by their response, and would encourage others that are having issues to also press Amazon support on the matter to hopefully send them the clear message that we don't appreciate a DRM scheme that prevents us from enjoying Amazon video on a device of our choosing.
RE: [RELEASE] Amazon Prime Instant Video plug-in addon - ptzink - 2012-04-05 19:57
I sent them an email as well letting them know that I am displeased and threatened to cancel my membership. I would encourage others to take a second and do the same.
RE: [RELEASE] Amazon Prime Instant Video plug-in addon - ptzink - 2012-04-05 20:21
BTW, thanks for the work on this and all of your plugins BlueCop. I hope that either Amazon has a change of heart on the DRM or you are able to find a work around. Let us know if we can help test/troubleshoot in any way.
RE: [RELEASE] Amazon Prime Instant Video plug-in addon - marcmerlin - 2012-04-08 07:17
Amazon was probably told to add DRM as per the contract they have with their providers. They are likely stupidly scared that someone might rip the video and 'steal it' when in real life by stopping people from watching content they were lawfully allowed to, they are just enticing people who can't do the right thing, to fall back on less legal options
Threatening amazon to leave them is unlikely to accomplish much unfortunately, although telling them politely that the change is now making prime unwatchable for you and that other options don't work for you will still give them numbers to work with, but let's be honest, those number will be noise at best.
I'm not sure if Bluecop can work around the new scheme without reverse engineering the new flash applet, or working on a new solution where the flash applet actually plays the video in a full screen window.
In my case though, whether this works is very much going to impact whether I renew my prime membership when the time comes since I did want to use prime to legally watch content on my HTPC.
RE: [RELEASE] Amazon Prime Instant Video plug-in addon - mikefreeman - 2012-04-09 10:27
Bluecop: I know you don't want to have anything to do with Flash. That said, if you can detect that the Amazon video is using Flash DRM, why not add a button to the dialog box that allows the user to choose to launch the video into a fullscreen flash player instance? It's not ideal at all, but it would at least allow users to easily get to the content until a better solution is found. Is this something that would be possible (whether you actually want to implement it or not)? I'm no lover of Flash, but I paid $80 to get this service, and I want to be able to use it. Can't use Netflix on Linux at all, and Amazon has more content that I want to watch than Hulu. If Flash is the only way it's going to happen, then that's what I'll have to do one way or another.
Also, I too sent a message of complaint to Amazon about their use of Flash DRM and the impact it has had on my use of their service. I'll let you know if there is any news received from it, beyond what's already been said.
RE: [RELEASE] Amazon Prime Instant Video plug-in addon - Citizen_Seven - 2012-04-09 13:31
This may be unrelated, but two things I noticed when testing videos from Prime this morning:
1. Playing in a web browser (i.e. NOT xbmc), a message came up about "updating player". I had never noticed that before, and I've been using Prime videos since they started over a year ago. The videos (ALF in this case) play fine in the web browser, as per usual
2. Through the bluecop plugin, we are no longer getting the DRM message dialog box, but rather the script failed popup in the lower right hand corner. This is different behavior than occurred just a few days ago with the exact same video source.
I don't know if any of this is relevant, but I thought it might point it out.
On another note, and pardon my ignorance, but since we know that prime video works in a web browser either full screen or not, then couldn't a stripped down version of a web browser be incorporated into xbmc and invoked via the bluecop plugin? It would only have to incorporate enough elements to convince the flash player that DRM isn't being violated.
I realize that this wouldn't be an optimal solution, adding another layer of complexity and probably losing some functionality some people want. But, if like me you just want a unified front end for videos played via XBMC in some fashion and a decent search/organizational structure, then there wouldn't be any difference.
I've been using Amazon since the 90's, and been a prime member since about '04. I'd still be prime even if Amazon completely dropped their Prime Instant Videos program. That said, their search functions and organizational structure on their website are not very good at all, and xbmc via the bluecop plugin solves that problem nicely.
RE: [RELEASE] Amazon Prime Instant Video plug-in addon - jshackles - 2012-04-09 17:27
For grins, I "purchased" one of their free episodes of Battlestar Galactica in HD. When accessing items in my video library, they play fine through the plugin. However when trying to play "Prime Eligible" content, I get the FLASH_DRM error message. It seems to me like they would be justified in implementing this DRM on files that are for pay, and not the other way around. Very strange.
RE: [RELEASE] Amazon Prime Instant Video plug-in addon - BlueCop - 2012-04-09 18:52
Citizen_Seven: I want to add the option of launching a web browser. I have never really launched an external program in any plug-ins. I am looking how some of the other scripts do it. I wanted to test some a few browsers. There is a mini-player url we can use that is fully the flash player component. a full screen browse would then have the player full as well.
Flash doesn't run well on my htpc because it runs linux. It doesn't run at all on my atv2 or ipad. those are the 3 primary devices I use xbmc on. When they implement DRM it completely eliminates my ability to watch the content on the screens I want. I haven't really felt like spending time making it work in a browser when I benefit very little. I just had other stuff I wanted to work on really.
I would bet these DRM requirements are from the content providers. It is just another example of when they make it easier to pirate the content you want. I mean BR and DVD copy protections are completely broken DRM. It doesn't prevent anyone motivated to do so from copying the disc contents. The content providers know this. They still release dvds and blurays that get ripped and pirated. People still copy discs from rental and subscription services.
If they are insisting on unneeded DRM in online realm then they would eventually have to cut off the DVD and BR market to force people into using their online player environments.
That is where they cross the line. They shouldn't be able to determine how I decode the content that I pay for. They crossed the same line on disc formats when they had User Prohibited Actions like disabling skip forward during pre-roll trailers. They think people should be forced to watch this shit every time they put a DVD in a drive. I just mean fuck these people. They hate their customers and treat them with no respect. I wouldn't stand behind technology that confines the customer rather then empowering the customer.
RE: [RELEASE] Amazon Prime Instant Video plug-in addon - Citizen_Seven - 2012-04-09 21:45
Of course, BlueCop, if you don't benefit then it would be nuts to expect you to work on a fix at all. The benefit of user-driven software projects such as these is that there's an "itch to scratch" on the developers part, and that they consent to share their work with the larger community. If the itch isn't there, you have no incentive, and development work becomes a job rather than a useful hobby. I appreciate the work you have done on this plug-in, and your other plug-ins as well.
RE: [RELEASE] Amazon Prime Instant Video plug-in addon - Clutchless - 2012-04-10 02:14
It appears that the view settings aren't sticking for Favorited shows as well as when you go into the episode level when browsing shows. It keeps defaulting back to DVD Case/Landscape respectively.
Is anyone else experiencing?