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- Robotica - 2012-01-04 02:18
TugboatBill Wrote:Since XBMC is a volunteer project and you seem to feel that having a foundation mission statement/etc is so important, why not volunteer to assist in coming up with one?
I made (and shared) one 2 years ago but above all, they already are made since they are used for applying for the tax-exempt status and for setting up the Foundation to begin with....
- FishOil - 2012-01-04 02:45
Who is John Galt?
- Robotica - 2012-01-04 16:35
On more comment: Using policies like the proposed there also should be some sanctions like on doom9 forum.
- rogerthis - 2012-01-04 22:01
Is there any plan on when these addons will be closed on xmbc.org?
Tomorrow, next week, next month. A time scale would be good, it will help for the transition.
Also what's on the list apart from icefilms? navi-x?
Is there going to be a name and shame so people can get ready to move?
- macf1an - 2012-01-05 00:51
I can't understand why is Navi-X constantly being brought to the topic? It is clearly not piracy-oriented by design. Just look at the list of legit site scrapers maintained by the devs.. only icefilms is the odd one out in there.
Maybe it's time for a clear definition because "if it looks like a rat - it is a rat" just doesn't cut it..
- rogerthis - 2012-01-05 01:29
macf1an Wrote:I can't understand why is Navi-X constantly being brought to the topic? It is clearly not piracy-oriented by design. Just look at the list of legit site scrapers maintained by the devs.. only icefilms is the odd one out in there.
You got to be joking right? There was always plenty of movies\tv shows sources to be got, before they added icefilms.
- natethomas - 2012-01-05 06:40
The rules are pretty explicit. We start with the presumption that EVERYTHING not put up by the content owner is against the rules. That we carve out massive exceptions. I have literally no knowledge of Navi-X, but for those who know about it, if it falls under one of the exceptions (for example, if it can be used for software that is being streamed by the content owner [e.g. bluecop repo], or if it can be used to download legally acquired software [e.g. torrent downloader], or if there is some sort of fair use exception argument to be made [e.g. fanart.tv]) then it is fine. I highly recommend reading the rules and trying to understand them, before asking what they mean.
- natethomas - 2012-01-05 08:30
See page 1 for updates on when the rules will go into effect and slight changes to the wording.
- macf1an - 2012-01-05 11:16
rogerthis Wrote:You got to be joking right? There was always plenty of movies\tv shows sources to be got, before they added icefilms.
Guess what? The very same can be done in youtube too! But is this the main intent of it? I believe that should be considered when the moderator is evaluating an add-on. Navi-X has it's own support forum so it wouldn't even feel being locked out of this one but it's a principles game ..
From where I'm standing - Navi-X is clearly a 4B.
- Ned Scott - 2012-01-05 14:21
Robotica Wrote:It is strange since a (charity) Foundations implies shared vision and needs. Not knowing those, and start drawing policies just doesn't make any sense. Wikimedia can do so since their Foundation is nicely operating in the open.
Quote:From there, they delegated some policies to their community.
Some? These are the only policies that the WikiMedia Foundation has made: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Policies
While the Wikipedia community (just on the English Wikipedia) handles 57 policies ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_policy ) and over 150 guidelines ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_guidelines ). The community is by far a self governing system that rarely requires input from the Foundation before making or changing rules.
Quote:The "there is no time"-argument is being told for already 2+ years....
There's time, but no one wants to do it. It's boring. Still has noting to do with forum rules.