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- watanave - 2012-02-20 18:32

bluray,

I'm going to try with a TV with HDMI, I don't have another, but I know somebody who can help me with other TV. I'll try tonight.

Also, I'm going to try turning HDMI Control Off in the AVR.

Thank you, for your help.

Muchas Gracias...

- bluray - 2012-02-20 18:43

watanave Wrote:bluray,

I'm going to try with a TV with HDMI, I don't have another, but I know somebody who can help me with other TV. I'll try tonight.

Also, I'm going to try turning HDMI Control Off in the AVR.

Thank you, for your help.

Muchas Gracias...
If you need more information on your Denon "HDMI Control", you can check pages 71 and 106 of your owner manual. I hope that you can get it to work with XBMC patches!

- htpc guy - 2012-02-20 18:56

I'll add something to this dispute. Not really more insight into the particular issue, but proof that if there is a problem with anything connected to the AVR then very strange things can happen.

I recently purchased the Onkyo Receiver in my signature and learned the hard way that crazy things can happen with the EDID Handshake.

Everything connects to my receiver via HDMI (HTPC, UVerse Box, BluRay Player, XBox360) and then I run one HDMI to the TV. Pretty standard setup.

Anyway, a few weeks back I ran into a strange issue. I have a Harmony Remote. I choose the XBMC activity when the tv is off. This turns the tv, avr, and sets the avr to the correct input. I had a definite handshake issue. It tried to bring up XBMC and I was getting a black screen that would alternate to static and back to a black screen and repeated. I tried to switch to UVerse and it did the same thing there. Switched to the bluray player...same thing. Very strange. Pressed power on the Harmony, which shuts everything off, and tried again. Same thing happened. Alternating black screen and static.

The UVerse box that was the problem. It had locked up. As soon as I rebooted it then everything else would work. Its crazy to me that my Uverse box being locked up could cause everything else to not work.

Just thought I would add that to the discussion.

- DDDamian - 2012-02-20 19:00

Voip-ninja is correct - hand-shaking takes place along the chain. Let's hope disabling HDMI control in the Denon solves his issue. It is disabled on my Denon amp but of course my TV is different.

Hope we hear back positive results.

- bluray - 2012-02-20 19:18

DDDamian Wrote:Voip-ninja is correct - hand-shaking takes place along the chain. Let's hope disabling HDMI control in the Denon solves his issue. It is disabled on my Denon amp but of course my TV is different.

Hope we hear back positive results.
Isn't HDMI control function is default to off? When I setup my wife uncle AVR-790, HDMI control function was disabled. Since it work fine with it disabled, I left it disabled and it'll use less power too! Smile

- greysquirrel - 2012-02-20 19:33

Been away for a bit but it's nice to see the continued support on here.
I updated to the ATI 12.2 drivers and it totally knocked out my audio. I tried the Realtek driver (always just used the amd HDMI one previously) and it worked fine so i have stuck with that for now.
I'm still having the problem with TrueHD. I used a different ripper to makemkv and now the audio is perfect with no drop outs or glitches, the only problem is that the video can't keep up. It's not blocky like it was on kung fu panda but it runs either really slowly or really quickly (i have tried sync to audio but this really killed it).
Any ideas?! 90% there, just this last niggle to resolve!

Oh, and also - I had an Onkyo 609 and took it back because the handshaking was crap. It would not allow me to switch digital inputs, in particular with the HTPC unless the HTPC had been started and fully loaded while selected on the amp. Once you moved to a different source and then went back, it wouldn't sync again.

- jjd-uk - 2012-02-20 19:37

watanave Wrote:only checking that the receiver is handling the audio and not the TV
Can you clarify whether this means you've checked the HDMI Audio Out setting on the AVR? this is where you have a choice of:

Amp or TV

You need it to be set to Amp which is what I assume you meant that the audio is handled by the receiver.

Just wanted to be sure as if it was set to TV the sound is passed onto the TV, and then it's the TV audio capabilities that are reported back along the HDMI link to the HTPC, so fits in with your report that everything is fine with TV off/disconnected.

- watanave - 2012-02-20 19:52

jjd-uk Wrote:Amp or TV

You need it to be set to Amp which is what I assume you meant that the audio is handled by the receiver.off/disconnected.

Yes, jjd-uk, is set to Amp. That's what I meant.

Gracias.

- dtviewer - 2012-02-20 20:31

DDDamian Wrote:Voip-ninja is correct - hand-shaking takes place along the chain. Let's hope disabling HDMI control in the Denon solves his issue. It is disabled on my Denon amp but of course my TV is different.

Hope we hear back positive results.

Can absolutley verify this on my set-up.

I run xbmc PC (or cable box...either works the same way) --->avr ---> onkyo 608(connected to a 7.1 mixture of self built speakers and JM Lab speakers).

If I am watching a movie and I turn off the tv accidently, the sound to the speakers goes off. I cant get sound out of my avr with the tv off, even though it is after the avr, because of the hdmi 'chain' being broken.

Really stumped me until I learned about the hdmi chain.

- bluray - 2012-02-20 23:32

dtviewer Wrote:Can absolutley verify this on my set-up.

I run xbmc PC (or cable box...either works the same way) --->avr ---> onkyo 608(connected to a 7.1 mixture of self built speakers and JM Lab speakers).

If I am watching a movie and I turn off the tv accidently, the sound to the speakers goes off. I cant get sound out of my avr with the tv off, even though it is after the avr, because of the hdmi 'chain' being broken.

Really stumped me until I learned about the hdmi chain.
That's new to me too. I played several movies (one movie with DTS-HD and another one with TrueHD) on my HTPC with my Onkyo HT-RC270 yesterday. I turned off HDTV several times while the movies were playing, and the surround on Onkyo HT-RC270 never miss a beat! Confused

Oh, I happen to have COX HDVR too. I turned off COX HDVR several times while watching Knicks and Mavericks game, and Onkyo HT-RC270 never miss a beat either. The kid "Lin" was superb!

Here is my system configurations-

1: HTPC-->HT-RC270-->HDTV via 2 hdmi cables (HT-RC270 video set to pass-thru).

2. COX HDVR-->HT-RC270-->HDTV via 2 hdmi cables (HT-RC270 video set to pass-thru).

3. XBOX 360 Kinect-->HT-RC270-->HDTV via 2 hdmi cables (HT-RC270 video set to pass-thru).

4. PS3-->HT-RC270-->HDTV via 2 hdmi cables (HT-RC270 video set to pass-thru).

Note- HT-RC270 hdmi output to HDTV hdmi input 1 via one hdmi cable for all sources!