(2013-01-24, 23:34)FattyMcDirty Wrote: withouth 1080p/24p this box somehow doesn't make sense for xbmc... there HAS to be a way to force android to tune to this res....?!

(2013-01-25, 00:01)pippo_piggy Wrote: I have no luck on my ATV1200 + XBMC.

Latest firmware -20130115, and latest Pivos apk -010813: XBMC fails to open any video format (avi, rmvb) except .mkv

Latest firmware -20130115, and latest Geniatech xbmc apk: XBMC hangs after 30 mins for any video (mkv, avi, rmvb).

(2013-01-24, 23:29)Xardos Wrote:

(2013-01-24, 17:09)thebearnecessit Wrote:

(2013-01-24, 14:22)Xardos Wrote: Geniatech wrote me an email, in their next geniatech-xbmc-version will be fixed following issues:

- aspect ratio (same problem as pivos-xbmc)
- video-addons problem - > doesn´t work (working in pivos-xbmc)

Xardos,

1) any news on your sound problem?

I am looking for an android box to setup for a friend. can you recommend this box? It is your sound problem experience that is putting me off it. I might go for the safe option and get a pivos xios if your sound is still not working.

2) hat is this that you mention about video addons not working? are the video addons that we do not speak off (the xbmchub addons) not working at all?

3) I am thinking of getting the MYGica ATV1200, does anyone know if the firmware and xbmc.apk's released by geniatech definately work on the MyGica boxes?

1) Unfortunately i have still no news. Reason of my problem is my Pioneer AVR, or, to be more precise, the missing "streamsilence" parameter support for advancedsettings.xml since Frodo rc. It seems as if you do have a AVR by Sony o. Yamaha, you don´t have to expect this problem.

2) the xbmc-video-addons aren´t working in Geniatech-xbmc-version only. In pivos-xbmc work the addons flawless.

3) It appears, Geniatech is anxious to offer a very good support. Email-questions will be answered within 2-3 days. There is meanwhile the 3rd Firmware released. I would say, the last firmware has already very good performance characteristics. Only a few things must be optimized. Currently is the pivos-xbmc the better version, the aspect-ratio-problem is probably the most unpleasing fault. (you can solve this by editing attributes, but this settings are resettet after restart)

4) my opinion: I let myself become infected by android-stick-hype. I bought a MK802 (very slow), i bought a MK808 - i was disappointing by having compromises each time (to slow, asynchronous, crashes, wrong powersupplys, no passtrough etc.). Support by stick-developers was not available. Every week was a new (much better with much faster cpu) stick/box advertised. I had no desire to further experiments...
I know, that AML8726 is supported by xbmc-team. I know, hdmi/spdif passtrough is really supported by Geniatech. Geniatech is the developer for many similar brands. I think, it is a short question of time, then will xbmc run perfectly. I bought the ATV1200 and i mean, that was the right decision.

(2013-01-24, 19:33)srle Wrote:

(2013-01-24, 17:44)DrMedia Wrote:

Quote:UPDATE (18.01.2013): Latest firmware -20130115, and latest Pivos apk -010813 work perfectly together. I can recommend the box to anyone now - the only thing missing is NFS support for the kernel.

Im getting stutter free playback of 1080p mkv's now :-)

However, for some reason, the only res option available in xbmc is 1280x672 I cant cahnge it. My TV says the signal is 1080@60, and the settings on the ATV1200 say its 1080, but XBMC does not have any other options...

Any ideas??

The best explanation I've come across is in the second post of the thread
http://www.pivosforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2341

executive summary - video gets out at 1080p, while the UI is rendered at 720p, upscaled to 1080p on out
I've tried changing it but all that I managed is getting UI in 1080p upscaled once more- you just get a part of the screen visible (left upper part)

anyway since I now know that video gets out at 1080p I dont mind the UI beeing rendered at 720p

(2013-01-24, 16:02)bluepeter Wrote: The 1200 is a dual core Mali, single core on the 510b, same as the Pivos M1/3 and no it does not lack 'the ponies' to coin Davilla's phrase

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Xardos, a question.... have you tried any of the nightlies

http://code.google.com/p/xbmc-android/downloads/detail?name=xbmcapp-armeabi-v7a-debug-2013-01-16-full-neon-xaf-set_top-6e29ebbdf5edb60af2874f5b02afd178e1dc8940.apk&can=2&q=

(2013-01-23, 08:34)davilla Wrote: Rendering the GUI in 720p is no big deal, most all GUIs skins are 720p anyway. So no real big deal, it's more a specmenship thing.

HW decoders decode at what ever the video rez they are given. That is scaled (or not) to the DISPLAY resolution.

(2013-01-23, 08:34)davilla Wrote: Also, remember a 40 inch 1080p display looks the same as a 720p display at 8 feet away. Your eyes can't physically tell the difference.

(2013-01-25, 01:34)peterk77 Wrote:

(2013-01-24, 16:02)bluepeter Wrote: The 1200 is a dual core Mali, single core on the 510b, same as the Pivos M1/3 and no it does not lack 'the ponies' to coin Davilla's phrase

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Xardos, a question.... have you tried any of the nightlies

http://code.google.com/p/xbmc-android/downloads/detail?name=xbmcapp-armeabi-v7a-debug-2013-01-16-full-neon-xaf-set_top-6e29ebbdf5edb60af2874f5b02afd178e1dc8940.apk&can=2&q=

I am running the ATV1200 with a Jan18 XBMC nightly, no hardware decoding, and all hub addons run fine. There is a slight stutter from time to time, but I can live with it.

I can aslo confirm Netflix runs very nice with the latest firmware and I do have working AirPlay.

I might add, I don't use XBMC for local files, MX Player does a fine job playing my 1080p/24 videos.

I also own a PIVOS XIOS, and the ATV1200 is much faster going through XBMC menus and loading plugins.

(2013-01-25, 01:40)dCrypt Wrote: You are wrong: my eyes, 8 feet away from a 37'' 1080p TV DO notice the difference. I have to say that I first noticed the rendering resolution difference in the GUI so I digged a bit to find out that the scaling was being performed.

(2013-01-25, 01:55)thebearnecessit Wrote:

(2013-01-25, 01:34)peterk77 Wrote:

(2013-01-24, 16:02)bluepeter Wrote: The 1200 is a dual core Mali, single core on the 510b, same as the Pivos M1/3 and no it does not lack 'the ponies' to coin Davilla's phrase

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Xardos, a question.... have you tried any of the nightlies

http://code.google.com/p/xbmc-android/downloads/detail?name=xbmcapp-armeabi-v7a-debug-2013-01-16-full-neon-xaf-set_top-6e29ebbdf5edb60af2874f5b02afd178e1dc8940.apk&can=2&q=

I am running the ATV1200 with a Jan18 XBMC nightly, no hardware decoding, and all hub addons run fine. There is a slight stutter from time to time, but I can live with it.

I can aslo confirm Netflix runs very nice with the latest firmware and I do have working AirPlay.

I might add, I don't use XBMC for local files, MX Player does a fine job playing my 1080p/24 videos.

I also own a PIVOS XIOS, and the ATV1200 is much faster going through XBMC menus and loading plugins.

how come you dont use xbmc for local files?

(2013-01-25, 03:16)davilla Wrote:

(2013-01-25, 01:40)dCrypt Wrote: You are wrong: my eyes, 8 feet away from a 37'' 1080p TV DO notice the difference. I have to say that I first noticed the rendering resolution difference in the GUI so I digged a bit to find out that the scaling was being performed.

Sorry, I call BS on that, human eyes don't have the receptors to do that. It's a physical issue and a very well known one. I'm actually a physicist and I quite familiar with the issues of errors in human perception. Here's pretty chart, http://s3.carltonbale.com/resolution_chart.html , at best it's five feet. Your human eyes are not that good

Also Confluence's native images are only 720p. so you can't claim that viewing them on 1080p will boost their resolution. Sorry it just does not work that way.

(2013-01-25, 01:21)dCrypt Wrote:

(2013-01-24, 19:33)srle Wrote:

(2013-01-24, 17:44)DrMedia Wrote: Im getting stutter free playback of 1080p mkv's now :-)

However, for some reason, the only res option available in xbmc is 1280x672 I cant cahnge it. My TV says the signal is 1080@60, and the settings on the ATV1200 say its 1080, but XBMC does not have any other options...

Any ideas??

The best explanation I've come across is in the second post of the thread
http://www.pivosforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2341

executive summary - video gets out at 1080p, while the UI is rendered at 720p, upscaled to 1080p on out
I've tried changing it but all that I managed is getting UI in 1080p upscaled once more- you just get a part of the screen visible (left upper part)

anyway since I now know that video gets out at 1080p I dont mind the UI beeing rendered at 720p

srle,

Did you try commenting "ro.platform.has.1080scale=2" (or whatever the number your firmware has) in /system/build.prop?? I tested an Android player some weeks ago, and I managed to get full 1080p GUI resolution commenting that line. Then I got a wonderful XBMC box rendering @7fps max.

How are you so sure about the video rendering resolution?

Regards.

(2013-01-25, 06:56)peterk77 Wrote:

(2013-01-25, 01:55)thebearnecessit Wrote:

(2013-01-25, 01:34)peterk77 Wrote: I am running the ATV1200 with a Jan18 XBMC nightly, no hardware decoding, and all hub addons run fine. There is a slight stutter from time to time, but I can live with it.

I can aslo confirm Netflix runs very nice with the latest firmware and I do have working AirPlay.

I might add, I don't use XBMC for local files, MX Player does a fine job playing my 1080p/24 videos.

I also own a PIVOS XIOS, and the ATV1200 is much faster going through XBMC menus and loading plugins.

how come you dont use xbmc for local files?

XBMC nightlies are not hardware decoded, so my local files stutter.

I guess I could use a pivos or geniatech xbmc release, but neither seems to work perfectly with plugins for now.

Eventually, as XBMC for Android matures, I will use it for local files as well.

(2013-01-24, 23:09)theINSKIP Wrote: Hi, I have just got the atv1200 and during the set up I selected the option to always boot to a screen with pictures of a tv, headphones, andriod robot, etc... I want it to boot to the normal jellybean lay out.

Where is the option to do this ?

It also defaults to this when I click home ?

Thanks for all your help with XBMC. I have installed the pivots build and all seems fine (so far)

(2013-01-24, 23:42)Xardos Wrote: I can´t detect stutter at 1080p/50... it looks very smooth

(2013-01-24, 23:29)Xardos Wrote: Currently is the pivos-xbmc the better version, the aspect-ratio-problem is probably the most unpleasing fault. (you can solve this by editing attributes, but this settings are resettet after restart)