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RE: Bay Trail-D motherboards - kbaggen - 2014-05-19

(2014-05-19, 10:39)-DDD- Wrote: Why don't you choose the Case with 60W PSU?

The cost difference was 5 Euro, and incase I wanna go to af I5 or something later on, then I got the power! What I digged up is the difference is that the power brix is physical bigger, but as this is outside of the case I thought, why just not get the 120W version as it secure the future incase of an upgrade to I5 or I7 Iris setup, and also, that if I attached a few USB HD, USB turnes and whatever it would be nice to have the extra power!


RE: Bay Trail-D motherboards - Dougie Fresh - 2014-05-19

(2014-05-19, 09:25)kbaggen Wrote: Hi there,
just got this "ALTERNATIVE NUC....SOUND PROOF" 4 days ago:

* MS-Tech CI-70 (including, PicoPSU 120W)
* ASRock Q1900B (Quad-Celeron 2ghs-2,5ghz/MiniITX) (Q1900B-ITX)
* KINGSTON SSDNow 60GB V300 SATA3 6,4cm (SV300S37A/60G)
* Kingston 4GB Modul 1600MHz Non-ECC CL11 SODIMM 1_35V (KVR16LS11/4)

I have the same case available with a C1037U system inside and an IR receiver installed. It's a very nice case.

Image


RE: Bay Trail-D motherboards - -DDD- - 2014-05-19

It would be nicer with more hole's on top, like here:

Image

http://geizhals.de/chieftec-compact-ix-01b-a896121.html

Then maybe you can also run there an i3 or i5


RE: Bay Trail-D motherboards - fritsch - 2014-05-19

Hi,

I need a tester, does not matter, which Baytrail System. We are currently thinking of giving VPP, the vaapi postprocessing lib a second chance. sraue of OpenELEC has put together a build, which you can use for testing. The advantage of VPP is only used when you watch LiveTV which is interlaced.

VPP implements three different methods for Deinterlacing:
- Simple Bob (IVB, HSW)
- MADI - Motion Adaptive Deinterlacing (IVB, HSW)
- MACI - Motion Compensation Deinterlacing (HSW)

As the Baytrail is much too slow to copy the decoded surfaces back to system memory and then do some advanced deinterlacing, this VPP is highly useful.

You can download the image here:
http://snapshots.openelec.tv/test/OpenELEC-Generic.x86_64-devel-20140519231334-r18356-g4063daa.tar

Testing Samples:
Transformers (576i): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55728161/transformers.ts
Servus TV HD (1080i50): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55728161/deinterlacing-test.mp4

How to test:
Download sample Transformers and Servus TV HD, play it, navigate to the film reel icon and select: Deinterlace Auto -> Deinterlacing Method: VAAPI (BOB), Scaling: Bilinear.
Press "o" and see if you get 50fps, if there are skips and drops (count only the numbers that appear from that point). Watch sample till the end
Now watch the sample again and select Deinterlacing Method: VAAPI (MADI)
Press "o" and see if you get 50fps, if there are skips and drops (count only the numbers that appear from that point). Watch sample till the end

This was the test for the 576i Sample.

Now repeat the above test with the 1080i50 sample.

Thanks very much
Peter

On Haswell: All methodes despite BOB are broken - which was the reason we abondonnned it long ago


RE: Bay Trail-D motherboards - mprassel - 2014-05-19

(2014-05-19, 15:06)Dougie Fresh Wrote:
(2014-05-19, 09:25)kbaggen Wrote: Hi there,
just got this "ALTERNATIVE NUC....SOUND PROOF" 4 days ago:

* MS-Tech CI-70 (including, PicoPSU 120W)
* ASRock Q1900B (Quad-Celeron 2ghs-2,5ghz/MiniITX) (Q1900B-ITX)
* KINGSTON SSDNow 60GB V300 SATA3 6,4cm (SV300S37A/60G)
* Kingston 4GB Modul 1600MHz Non-ECC CL11 SODIMM 1_35V (KVR16LS11/4)

I have the same case available with a C1037U system inside and an IR receiver installed. It's a very nice case.

Image

Are you going to add this to your website soon?


RE: Bay Trail-D motherboards - -DDD- - 2014-05-19

@fritsch: You only need Baytrail Users, no IVB?
Maybe you can also find here someone:
http://openelec.tv/forum/64-installation/69105-so-does-any-one-have-the-bay-trail-nuc-dn2820fykh
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=187433


RE: Bay Trail-D motherboards - fritsch - 2014-05-19

IVB is also fine :-) (but I have an IVB myself at hand).


RE: Bay Trail-D motherboards - Aquarius - 2014-05-19

Will test this evening when your link to the build will be up !

Any special recommandation for the test ? Do we need to burn a CD/DVD or is a USB drive enough?


RE: Bay Trail-D motherboards - fritsch - 2014-05-19

An USB drive is enough, nothing else to do.


RE: Bay Trail-D motherboards - Aquarius - 2014-05-19

Also, is there a set of xbmc debian packages available separatly to test that feature on other distros? (a basic ubuntu, for exemple).


RE: Bay Trail-D motherboards - fritsch - 2014-05-19

Sraue will edit my post later that day. We had some features in that build - not yet to be shown to public :-)


RE: Bay Trail-D motherboards - fritsch - 2014-05-19

(2014-05-19, 16:37)Aquarius Wrote: Also, is there a set of xbmc debian packages available separatly to test that feature on other distros? (a basic ubuntu, for exemple).

you need libva-driver-intel from git, libva from git, that patch applied: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=98439

and this branch compiled:
git clone https://github.com/btbn/xbmc.git
git checkout vaapi-vpp-deinterlacing
./bootstrap
./configure
make -j5

In short it will mess up your complete system, therefore I want the OE way as we can easily integrated those things without messing up and afterwards we don't need to fix "selfmade compile, lib, etc. errors". It's just a test for now - not meant to be stable, just a pure performance test, if it's worth to implement that into xbmc.


RE: Bay Trail-D motherboards - Aquarius - 2014-05-19

(2014-05-19, 16:41)fritsch Wrote: you need libva-driver-intel from git, libva from git, that patch applied: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=98439

and this branch compiled:
git clone https://github.com/btbn/xbmc.git
git checkout vaapi-vpp-deinterlacing
./bootstrap
./configure
make -j5

In short it will mess up your complete system, therefore I want the OE way as we can easily integrated those things without messing up and afterwards we don't need to fix "selfmade compile, lib, etc. errors". It's just a test for now - not meant to be stable, just a pure performance test, if it's worth to implement that into xbmc.

Ok. Not worth the trouble, then.
Noted.
Will test and report back as soon as I manage.


RE: Bay Trail-D motherboards - Dougie Fresh - 2014-05-19

(2014-05-19, 15:29)mprassel Wrote:
(2014-05-19, 15:06)Dougie Fresh Wrote:
(2014-05-19, 09:25)kbaggen Wrote: Hi there,
just got this "ALTERNATIVE NUC....SOUND PROOF" 4 days ago:

* MS-Tech CI-70 (including, PicoPSU 120W)
* ASRock Q1900B (Quad-Celeron 2ghs-2,5ghz/MiniITX) (Q1900B-ITX)
* KINGSTON SSDNow 60GB V300 SATA3 6,4cm (SV300S37A/60G)
* Kingston 4GB Modul 1600MHz Non-ECC CL11 SODIMM 1_35V (KVR16LS11/4)

I have the same case available with a C1037U system inside and an IR receiver installed. It's a very nice case.

Image

Are you going to add this to your website soon?

I only have the one so I put it up on eBay after quickly testing it out to make sure it worked, wasn't too noisy, didn't get too hot, etc.


RE: Bay Trail-D motherboards - kbaggen - 2014-05-19

(2014-05-19, 15:10)-DDD- Wrote: It would be nicer with more hole's on top, like here:

There is also holes on the side, and a smal fan can be attached on the inside side! My system runs around 44-48 C, CPU cores up til 60 C.!

https://www.google.dk/search?q=MS-Tech+CI-70&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=2Td6U5fWJsmk4gTD2YCoBw&ved=0CDUQsAQLINK more pictures!

If needed you can drill a bit more holes, every car repare shop would do it for 10$!