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Satellite XBMC - theballboy - 2014-05-27 Hi folks My current set up is cyclone x2 running gotham beta quad core rk3188 running gotham beta Ouya running gotham beta Grabbing myself a satellite receiver for a 12 month package subscription and it had always been a deal breaker for me to get xbmc running on it. for quite a while it didn't seem to be happening. Dreambox's, skyboxs, vu solos etc on the enigma 2 were a no go. Low and behold there are now some options ANdroid satellite receivers Media art 7 ultra £180 Evo X finity. £140 and these E2BMC SETTOPBOX http://www.e2bmc.com/ Prismcube - http://www.abipbox.com/ Prismcube seems the most expensive but also seems the best supported Any comments - horrible experiences? Praise? Advice? pointers to thriving communities Thanks in advance RE: Satellite XBMC - nickr - 2014-05-27 Would love to see their source code. If you buy one, demand it! RE: Satellite XBMC - theballboy - 2014-05-27 ?? What do you mean? They wont share it with the xbmc community? Can certainly ask if they will make it available before committing to purchase RE: Satellite XBMC - CaptainPsycho - 2014-05-27 For the price i see no real advantage to a small mini-itx build with dvb-s2 tuners. RE: Satellite XBMC - theballboy - 2014-05-27 yeah, point taken surely it would be more power hungry though RE: Satellite XBMC - Hedda - 2014-05-27 There are no Android boxes that today let you access the TV tuners from within XBMC's own Live TV and PVR GUI, as instead you will have to use separate Android apps for that, and usually an app with crappy interface without remote control support. Even those Linux based boxes that you listed have their own separate app for accessing the TV tuners, but they at least try to skin that to kind-of look a bit like XBMC, but it means you can't use the TV part with other skins for XBMC. I think the best long term solution for this would be to fully port Tvheadend and MuMuDVB PVR backends run natively on Android and also have matching PVR client addon for XBMC, as then it would allow to have both the DVB TV tuner server part that is Tvheadend or MuMuDVB PVR backend TV tuner server application running on the very same Android box as the frontend XBMC media player. Right now however there are no Android compatible "PVR backend" which also have a real "PVR client" addon for XBMC. Because while the upstream MuMuDVB PVR backend does runs on Android (and Linux) it doesn't yet have PVR client addon for XBMC. And while Tvheadend does have a PVR client addon for XBMC, the upstream Tvheadend PVR backend does not run on Android, (only on Linux so far). Checkout the previous discussions in these two forum threads which relates to Android media player with integrated TV tuners http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=182218 http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=196200 There are already many inexpensive USB DVB-T/C/S TV-tuners that are compatible with Android, and even more cheap Android boxes come with integrated TV-tuner, so if there was only an Android compatible "PVR backend" with a matching "PVR client" addon for XBMC then we would all be be golden in this Live TV area. Just see these examples of Android USB TV-tuners and boxes with integrated tuners: http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/02/14/android-tv-box-with-satellite-dvb-s2-support-sells-for-93/ http://www.geniatech.com/tv-tuner-for-android-tablet.asp http://www.geniatech.com/pa/pt115m.asp http://www.geniatech.com/pa/atv1220.asp http://www.mygica.com/product.asp?id=165 http://www.xtreamer.net/SideWinder4/ http://www.pctvsystems.com/Products/ProductsEuropeAsia/DVBTT2products/AndroiDTV/tabid/296/language/en-GB/Default.aspx http://www.pointofview-online.com/showroom.php?shop_mode=product_detail&product_id=358 http://www.tevii.com/Products_t810_1.asp http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/05/22/unboxing-of-hd18t-android-media-player-with-dvb-t2-tuner/ RE: Satellite XBMC - noggin - 2014-05-27 Another option is to run your TV Backend on a small low-power ARM server like a Pogoplug or GoFlexNet. I've got a TV Headend PVR build on a GoFlexNet with a DVB-T2 USB tuner and SATA HD working pretty well (Arch Linux base with self-built TV Headend on top). Leave that on 24/7 and power down the XBMC box(es) - Celeron 1007U Revo RL80 and i5 NUC - when not in use. There is also an unRAID server which serves both of them that is only powered up when needed. RE: Satellite XBMC - nickr - 2014-05-27 (2014-05-27, 11:20)theballboy Wrote: ?? What do you mean? They wont share it with the xbmc community? Can certainly ask if they will make it available before committing to purchaseMy point is that they appear to be using a patched XBMC, so they are obliged to make the source available. Let's hope they do, the history of GPL abuse in this area is quite appalling. RE: Satellite XBMC - bgoldie - 2014-06-04 (2014-05-27, 21:58)nickr Wrote:(2014-05-27, 11:20)theballboy Wrote: ?? What do you mean? They wont share it with the xbmc community? Can certainly ask if they will make it available before committing to purchaseMy point is that they appear to be using a patched XBMC, so they are obliged to make the source available. Let's hope they do, the history of GPL abuse in this area is quite appalling. The source for the XBMC modifications for the Prismcube are available and they are a diamond sponsor of XBMC now: http://xbmc.org/xbmc-sponsor-page/ RE: Satellite XBMC - nickr - 2014-06-04 That is excellent! RE: Satellite XBMC - RockerC - 2014-06-05 (2014-06-04, 21:43)nickr Wrote:Not excellent at all since PrismCube actually have two separate apps to get around GPL, so almost all "modifications" are in a second closed source dirty hack of an app called "MaruApp" which is not based on XBMC.(2014-06-04, 21:33)bgoldie Wrote:That is excellent!(2014-05-27, 21:58)nickr Wrote:The source for the XBMC modifications for the Prismcube are available and they are a diamond sponsor of XBMC now: http://xbmc.org/xbmc-sponsor-page/(2014-05-27, 11:20)theballboy Wrote: ?? What do you mean? They wont share it with the xbmc community? Can certainly ask if they will make it available before committing to purchaseMy point is that they appear to be using a patched XBMC, so they are obliged to make the source available. Let's hope they do, the history of GPL abuse in this area is quite appalling. http://www.prismcube-community.net/board/threads/ideas-for-consideration-for-inclusion-in-future-builds.763/ Marusus are only diamond sponsor of XBMC because they donated money to XBMC Foundation, not because they have contributed any code to upstream XBMC that benefints any other platform than PrismCube. Quote:I like to see PrismCube use XBMC's own native PVR frontend GUI for PVR/DVR/EPG/Live-TV, and for that have a (headless) PrismCube PVR backend only that works as a TV-tuner and recording server running as a background daemon service without a GUI. Quote:Sure if it was open source then that would be a little better, but if MaruApp TV server was only acting as a PV backend then it would not matter as much if it was closed source, as then much could still be done in XBMC's open source code to improve the experience. |