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RE: Rockchip RK3288 SoC based Android media players and XBMC experience? - User 231261 - 2014-09-20
PCH C-200 that was Q1 2010 and the Pi compares good to it for what it costs.... I'll grant you that one instantly.
However 4 and a half years down the road... on Sigma8911 based box.. for me a Pi is not an option with regards to Video and Audio quality..... it doesn't cut the mustard.
But lets discuss this somewhere else like on the openhour or popcornhour forum and feel free to convince everyone there...
Again most of us don't have these boxes for the UI but for the playback of our content no compromising on that..
5 minutes on a slick UI does not weigh up to 2 hours of suboptimal viewing.
RE: Rockchip RK3288 SoC based Android media players and XBMC experience? - nero12 - 2014-09-20
(2014-09-19, 13:56)luksol Wrote: I know that this is a thread for Android devices, but I just wanted to ask if there is any linux rom for rk3288 with XBMC being developed?
same here, very interested in finding out.
finless messaged me this one: http://www.t-firefly.com/html/en/home/
But i am looking for Linux XBMC ready just like the one pivos has.
RE: Rockchip RK3288 SoC based Android media players and XBMC experience? - nero12 - 2014-09-20
(2014-09-19, 14:22)shomari Wrote:(2014-09-19, 12:55)nero12 Wrote: I will test the non-compliant XBMC tonight and see if there is any noticeable improvements.
I don't bother with it except to test the hardware decoded hevc playback capability which has already been fleshed out.
Apart from that one feature everything seems as it was with the alpha used as base. Please post if you notice any other hidden attributes we may have missed.
I tested it last night. It was not good enough for my exact needs.
for me the Gotham version 13.0 release data 05.05 is the best apk file so fare. it work great with 1080p and also my device box comes with this apk as standard.
all the newer once drops a lot of frames during fast movements. But this version is great! not sure why its only 13.0. I guess everyone have their preference.
RE: Rockchip RK3288 SoC based Android media players and XBMC experience? - Wingfat - 2014-09-20
(2014-09-20, 12:48)Willem55 Wrote: PCH C-200 that was Q1 2010 and the Pi compares good to it for what it costs.... I'll grant you that one instantly.
However 4 and a half years down the road... on Sigma8911 based box.. for me a Pi is not an option with regards to Video and Audio quality..... it doesn't cut the mustard.
But lets discuss this somewhere else like on the openhour or popcornhour forum and feel free to convince everyone there...
Again most of us don't have these boxes for the UI but for the playback of our content no compromising on that..
5 minutes on a slick UI does not weigh up to 2 hours of suboptimal viewing.
Ah.... but the UI together with all the functions the XBMC library bring completely destroy all that "video and audio quality" with regard to Popcorn Hour. Lets not forget the black screen I got every time I tried to play a Hi10p video. I have 3 PCH 300's collecting dust as I can't ever imagine watching video the "old fashioned way". The YAMJ add-on although brilliant, was hard to maintain and too many hours, days and weekends to mess with. With XMBX/KODI everything is automatic and my episodes are presented in such a way I know which one to watch next. I would rather use a low powered marginally acceptable Pi to the top of the line PH. (which was IMHO the PHC300) as the flash based units are altogether painful.
So there you have it.. no need to go to the NMT forum ... if it still exists.
RE: Rockchip RK3288 SoC based Android media players and XBMC experience? - User 231261 - 2014-09-20
300 series was never adviced on the user forum.. on my sig list was 100, 200, 400 series and never a 300 with a good reason..
you bought the lemon and now you're a expert.... fine with me
RE: Rockchip RK3288 SoC based Android media players and XBMC experience? - Milhouse - 2014-09-20
(2014-09-20, 12:48)Willem55 Wrote: does not weigh up to 2 hours of suboptimal viewing.
What I find confusing is that you bang on about video/audio quality, yet you champion an Android device that can only do 30/60Hz. Until Android-L, if Android-L comes with the promised features, any Android-based device is going to have "suboptimal" video compared to even a Pi.
RE: Rockchip RK3288 SoC based Android media players and XBMC experience? - Wingfat - 2014-09-20
(2014-09-20, 22:22)Willem55 Wrote: 300 series was never advices on the user forum.. on my sig list was 100, 200, 400 series and never a 300 with a good reason..
you bought the lemon and now you're a expert.... fine with me
I will refrain from getting into a pissing match with the Moderator of the NMT forums (Willem53)... Just to qualify I owned several 100's and 200's as well. Beta tested your stuff for a few years also. As the first device to playback MKV files my hat is off to Syabas... But thats the past. Lets bury the Popcorn Hour with all the honors it deserved.
RE: Rockchip RK3288 SoC based Android media players and XBMC experience? - User 182116 - 2014-09-20
Having tested 2 of the modded XBMC's, even though they played 720p Tears of Steel, the 1080p version (http://trailers.divx.com/hevc/TearsOfSteelFull12min_1080p_24fps_27qp_1474kbps_GPSNR_42.29_HM11.mkv) would not play without having half of the screen turn green.
The latest Helix Alpha nightly build did play the 1080p version and although not perfect, it was watchable, so it shows how well Kodi is coming along.
It also played all of the test files that I had been using to evaluate the Tronsmart R28 flawlessly, where the modded builds struggled with even some of the more basic files.
What I did notice in Kodi that I had not seen before, although had not really looked, was this
http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv283/bluesmanuk/Screenshot_2014-09-20-16-05-16_zps58607c24.png
Whether the allow multi threaded software decoding feature has been there all along I don't know but I do know that this version has become my new player of choice in terms of XBMC use.
RE: Rockchip RK3288 SoC based Android media players and XBMC experience? - User 231261 - 2014-09-20
(2014-09-20, 22:27)Milhouse Wrote:(2014-09-20, 12:48)Willem55 Wrote: does not weigh up to 2 hours of suboptimal viewing.
What I find confusing is that you bang on about video/audio quality, yet you champion an Android device that can only do 30/60Hz. Until Android-L, if Android-L comes with the promised features, any Android-based device is going to have "suboptimal" video compared to even a Pi.
Let me make this perfectly clear for you.... I'm using my Sigma8911 based box and I'm planning to test a RK3288 box to see if and when it matches or surpasses the Video and Audio quality I now have.
As far as champion you are mistaken... I don't expect all this to happen in the next 3 months... or even who is gonna be first Android or Ubuntu...
What I do know is that when that happens these $95 boxes will surpass the Pi as a mediaplayer on all fronts.
RE: Rockchip RK3288 SoC based Android media players and XBMC experience? - Milhouse - 2014-09-20
(2014-09-20, 22:49)Willem55 Wrote: What I do know is that when that happens these $95 boxes will surpass the Pi as a mediaplayer on all fronts.Yes, *if* and *when* but not *now* which is the period I'm talking about. Notice I used the term "stopgap" in my previous post which should have tipped you off.
I'm sure the Rockchip will be fine at some yet to be determined point in the future, but does everyone who is buying one of these products know that they will be nothing more than Alpha testers?
RE: Rockchip RK3288 SoC based Android media players and XBMC experience? - Wingfat - 2014-09-20
(2014-09-20, 23:00)Milhouse Wrote:(2014-09-20, 22:49)Willem55 Wrote: What I do know is that when that happens these $95 boxes will surpass the Pi as a mediaplayer on all fronts.
I'm sure the Rockchip will be fine at some yet to be determined point in the future, but does everyone who is buying one of these products know that they will be nothing more than Alpha testers?
Exactly.... CloudMedia/Syabas/Willem55(Willem53) need alpha and beta testers as this is their modus operandi. They release excellent hardware and buggy software... It takes *forever* to finally iron out all the bugs. This formulae has worked for them in the past and they see it as a viable option.
RE: Rockchip RK3288 SoC based Android media players and XBMC experience? - Roby77 - 2014-09-20
@Wingfat you deserve a medal
RE: Rockchip RK3288 SoC based Android media players and XBMC experience? - User 231261 - 2014-09-20
Point is Software development is not in their hands now is it... Android or Ubuntu and xbmc... it's called openhour as that part is open...
But agreed excellent hardware....
lots of big chips on shoulders today..
(2014-09-20, 23:00)Milhouse Wrote:(2014-09-20, 22:49)Willem55 Wrote: What I do know is that when that happens these $95 boxes will surpass the Pi as a mediaplayer on all fronts.Yes, *if* and *when* but not *now* which is the period I'm talking about. Notice I used the term "stopgap" in my previous post which should have tipped you off.
I'm sure the Rockchip will be fine at some yet to be determined point in the future, but does everyone who is buying one of these products know that they will be nothing more than Alpha testers?
where as everyone who is buying a Pi board is what?
Re: RE: Rockchip RK3288 SoC based Android media players and XBMC experience? - nickr - 2014-09-21
(2014-09-20, 23:56)Willem55 Wrote: Point is Software development is not in their hands now is it... Android or Ubuntu and xbmc... it's called openhour as that part is open...
But agreed excellent hardware....
lots of big chips on shoulders today..
(2014-09-20, 23:00)Milhouse Wrote:(2014-09-20, 22:49)Willem55 Wrote: What I do know is that when that happens these $95 boxes will surpass the Pi as a mediaplayer on all fronts.Yes, *if* and *when* but not *now* which is the period I'm talking about. Notice I used the term "stopgap" in my previous post which should have tipped you off.
I'm sure the Rockchip will be fine at some yet to be determined point in the future, but does everyone who is buying one of these products know that they will be nothing more than Alpha testers?
where as everyone who is buying a Pi board is what?
Is buying a known quantity with great support and superb video playback abilities, along with built in CEC and 3d switching.
RE: Rockchip RK3288 SoC based Android media players and XBMC experience? - shomari - 2014-09-21
(2014-09-20, 22:38)Bluesmanuk Wrote: Having tested 2 of the modded XBMC's, even though they played 720p Tears of Steel, the 1080p version (http://trailers.divx.com/hevc/TearsOfSteelFull12min_1080p_24fps_27qp_1474kbps_GPSNR_42.29_HM11.mkv) would not play without having half of the screen turn green.
The latest Helix Alpha nightly build did play the 1080p version and although not perfect, it was watchable, so it shows how well Kodi is coming along.
It also played all of the test files that I had been using to evaluate the Tronsmart R28 flawlessly, where the modded builds struggled with even some of the more basic files.
What I did notice in Kodi that I had not seen before, although had not really looked, was this
http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv283/bluesmanuk/Screenshot_2014-09-20-16-05-16_zps58607c24.png
Whether the allow multi threaded software decoding feature has been there all along I don't know but I do know that this version has become my new player of choice in terms of XBMC use.
Multi-threaded software decoding is a part of official stable for a while now.
The non-compliant xbmc plays 4K HEVC with ease. I posted a video showing it.
1080p, same on QPRO.