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- Geeba - 2010-10-21
The thread is in the "off topic" hardware area and its about PS3 homebrew... failing to see the problem.
- poofyhairguy - 2010-10-21
cassius Wrote:it looks like linux on the PS3 with all 7 SPEs in play is quickly becomming a reality.
An version of Mplayer that has used the SPUs has been out for a while:
http://psubuntu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2116
That is not the problem. The problem is XBMC's OpenGL interface. Unless someone can hack MESA to run on the SPUs it won't run XBMC's interface.
- tigeredwards - 2010-10-25
I received the original PS Jaiblreak ordered from http://www.gadget-asia.com. It works very well with my PS3, whose firmware stays as 3.41. I have backed up several favorite games to the HDD. We also received emails from them saying the producers had been working to upgrade the mod chip. It seems to be compatible with 3.42 and 3.5, but I'm worried to try it, so I keep the firmware as 3.41". Hope it will be upgraded soon.
- cassius - 2010-10-27
poofyhairguy Wrote:An version of Mplayer that has used the SPUs has been out for a while:
http://psubuntu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2116
That is not the problem. The problem is XBMC's OpenGL interface. Unless someone can hack MESA to run on the SPUs it won't run XBMC's interface.
Sorry, I'm not as technically minded as some (please correct me if I'm wrong) but can't this already occur?
http://www.mesa3d.org/cell.html
- poofyhairguy - 2010-10-27
cassius Wrote:Sorry, I'm not as technically minded as some (please correct me if I'm wrong) but can't this already occur?
http://www.mesa3d.org/cell.html
That link pretty much says why. Tungsten Graphics is by far one of the biggest driver makers for Xorg, and the driver they left behind for cell isn't full featured. To get it to be full featured it would take the direct efforts of one of the Xorg big wigs, and they are all focused on PC hardware nowadays.
Basically a feature complete Cell driver is tons of work for only one machine to benefit. When Sony allowed the "other OS" option this seemed possible (which is why it DID get developed to the point that it did) but now that the PS3 requires hacks to continue the work no respectable Xorg big shot is gonna mess with it. I mean why do that when the more obvious glory is working on AMD drivers when AMD will happily give you the specs? And honestly before the Cell driver work can be done, that SPU enhanced Mplayer needs to be updated to work within Xorg. Huge pain in the a**.
The real problem is that there are maybe 50 people in the world that could even make the driver. Xorg isn't like media players.
The day the Other OS option died, so did Linux's future on the PS3.
XBMC on PS3 - jeopardy - 2010-11-16
I bought a PS3 a while back (Fat 40GB), and now that I have an xbox, I dont use it. I havn't turned it on for about 6 months now. I want to install XBMC on it, however I no longer have 'Install Other OS' option. I heard of a guy that got XBMC on the PS3 working, but that was back in March and apparently it was very laggy.
So Does anyone have like a tutorial etc on how to do this?
Thank You
- darkscout - 2010-11-16
No.
Can't be done.
Use Search.
now, XBMC can be done on PS3 - nntb - 2010-11-28
http://www.ps3hax.net/2010/10/marcan-proof-that-ps3-rsx-3d-works/
in newly jailbroken (i hate that term) ps3s there is now the ability to run linux with Hardware calls to the 3d RSX chipset, subsequently there is a tool chain to develop homebrew that uses the hardware and runs nativly on the ps3.
i am not a programmer but i think it would be good to get XBMC running on the ps3.
- TheBoxMan - 2010-12-12
saratoga Wrote:Scroll up and read the thread. Its basically never going to happen the way you're thinking because its an enormous amount of work for a system thats just not well suited to run XBMC. Pretty much everyone with a clue is going to buy a cheaper, more capable Ion system.
I doubt I'd pay a couple of hundred just for an XBMC machine - It's one thing spending £15 a pop on old xbox1s and connecting one to every single TV in my term and home address. That's great value. If I could convert an existing console to run a hidef one such as the PS3 it'd be bliss....
Also I don't know what the second hand market on ions is like but second hand ps3s go for about £120 odd and I suspect the ion costs a trifle more even second hand?
Not to diss the ion - I'm sure it's great if you've got the cash for one. I'm just pointing out that for some of us common devices we might have anyway make the best target systems.
The problems of cell processing might be more of an issue mind you I suppose. Still it looks like we're managing to port lots of emulators and things so I would suspect it's at least theoretically possible - though I doubt at present that psl1ght sdk could compile it. But let's watch this space and hope people :-)
ION is the way to go, or possibly a NetTop based on the new Atom chips next year - takapa - 2010-12-14
TheBoxMan Wrote:I doubt I'd pay a couple of hundred just for an XBMC machine - It's one thing spending £15 a pop on old xbox1s and connecting one to every single TV in my term and home address. That's great value. If I could convert an existing console to run a hidef one such as the PS3 it'd be bliss....
Also I don't know what the second hand market on ions is like but second hand ps3s go for about £120 odd and I suspect the ion costs a trifle more even second hand?
Not to diss the ion - I'm sure it's great if you've got the cash for one. I'm just pointing out that for some of us common devices we might have anyway make the best target systems.
The problems of cell processing might be more of an issue mind you I suppose. Still it looks like we're managing to port lots of emulators and things so I would suspect it's at least theoretically possible - though I doubt at present that psl1ght sdk could compile it. But let's watch this space and hope people :-)
I was hoping for a PS3 port down the road a few years ago but if I were you I would follow the advice of others in this thread.
Get a dedicated media playback box based around ION/ION2. The box is small, quiet, will consume FAR less power than even the new 45nm PS3s and will not lock you out of your console. Not only that, but all of the reasons I used to hack consoles in the past are gone.
I can play use XBMC (at 1080P no problems), all my retro games and games released up to about 2004 at 720P, surf the web, use youtube, Hulu (if I was in the US), whatever. My PS3 is for my modern gaming.
I don't have to worry about an 'update' to my ION box that will remove all of this goodness. I can buy a remote for the TV and boot straight into XBMC if I like. In reality, its no hassle to wait 25 seconds for my Revo to boot up. of course, there is an extra cost of getting the box but its great value for money. Even though I have a 1080P TV, at 37 inches and a viewing distance of 8 feet (2.5 metres) I can't tell the difference between 720P and 1080P in quality so I'll be keeping my ION box past my next TV upgrade (which is a far more expensive proposition).
- JackieBrown - 2010-12-14
Geeba Wrote:I dont wanna crack open Linux code to get stuff working... to old... not enough time...You are to old to installed xbmc for windows (a simply executable) or xbmc-live which does all the work for you (just by a ms remote) but you are to to old to hack a PS3 or Xbox 360?
Installing xbmc on a ubuntu install or just installing xbmc-live is easier for me than buying whatever parts are needed to hack my ps3. Also, I don't have to worry about an update bricking my computer or rendering whatever hack I was using useless.
- Ben.Totoro - 2010-12-21
poofyhairguy Wrote:An version of Mplayer that has used the SPUs has been out for a while:
http://psubuntu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2116
That is not the problem. The problem is XBMC's OpenGL interface. Unless someone can hack MESA to run on the SPUs it won't run XBMC's interface.
Hello : is that project can help ? http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/
HT Frontend for ps3 & media streaming to my PS3 - jcl3042 - 2010-12-31
I am planning on using my ps3 as my HT head. I was hoping to use xbmc as my frontend is there a way to install it on my ps3 without hacking the console? Will I be able to stream my movies from my PC to my PS3? If I can't use xbmc is there a frontend somewhere that can be used instead?
- BigCity - 2010-12-31
I know XBMC cannot be used for PS3 and probably never will be, there are other items available for PS3 streaming but I have never researched a PS3 so I'm no help there.
- RacerX780 - 2011-01-01
There is a app called 'PS3 Media Server' - which is a java application you run on a server and allows your PS3 to access your media files.
It is no place near as nice a XBMC... I'm currently using it until I finish my network at which time I'll switch over to my XBMC frontend.