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- TugboatBill - 2010-09-14 18:50
The number of PS3s that can be hacked will continue to decrease with Sony closing the doors on hacks. Essentially Sony has made this a dead platform for independent development.
So yes, it could be hacked if you have one that hasn't been updated. Finding a developer that's willing to put in a massive amount of their time to port to a dead end platform is another thing.
- davilla - 2010-09-14 19:33
If this thread continues to go off-topic, it will get locked. There will be no further warning.
- saratoga - 2010-09-15 01:13
ZombieRobot Wrote:i think a port to the ps3 is a great idea and inevitable just dont update firmware would definitely put a use to the two ps3 i have in my closet with broken bluray players and sure as hell got to preform better than apple tv imo
Scroll up and read the thread. Its basically never going to happen the way you're thinking because its an enormous amount of work for a system thats just not well suited to run XBMC. Pretty much everyone with a clue is going to buy a cheaper, more capable Ion system.
- ZombieRobot - 2010-09-15 02:22
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- tigeredwards - 2010-09-17 05:13
The PS Jailbreak does not arrive
. My friends told me that he found another website -www.buyps3jailbreak.co.uk, offering a PS3 Break with good quality and better price. Hmmm…… this seems attractive. 
- cassius - 2010-09-26 03:37
Sorry to bring this thread up again guys, but rumour has it that the first custom linux OS has arrived for the PS3 http://www.ps3hax.net/2010/09/playos-first-custom-operating-system-for-ps3/
The PlayOS apparently includes hardwre acceleration.
Now for the noob question, does this make the Linux port of XBMC any easier to run on the PS3? or are we still faced with all the same issues?
- linuxluemmel - 2010-09-26 13:54
It is my guess that xbmc will never come back to a console of any kind ... (ps3,xbox360,wi) including hardware like Apple Tablets ...
- TugboatBill - 2010-09-27 16:44
It could happen, but only if someone were to take up the coding for it. The current developers haven't shown any enthusiasm for making another port and I can see why. Sony has made it clear they're going to do all they can to suppress any of these hacks to their platform. There are several devices out there that are less expensive, better devices for the purpose, and XBMC already runs on them.
- poofyhairguy - 2010-09-27 20:49
It funny, back when I had a PS3 and it had that "Other OS" option there was absolutely NO excitement about it being a media center. Even after that awesome SPU enable Mplayer was made back in 2007, there was no one who cared if it could be a decent HTPC.
Fast forward a few years when the "other OS" option is gone and the thing has to be hacked in order to install Linux on it, and suddenly there is a huge "demand" for media center software on it.
I know part of the difference is that its cheaper now (so more people have one), but I really think part of it is the "fun" of hacking something to do things it was never intended to do.
When it was easy, and Sony let you just install Linux straight on, no one wanted it. Back in 2007 holes were found in the hypervisor to enable real GPU support and few were interested. Now suddenly it is a hot topic again. I will tell everyone what I learned back then:
Don't expect a decent HTPC software for the PS3 anytime soon. Three things need to happen for XBMC to get on the PS3:
1. Someone needs to take that Mplayer from a few years back with SPU support, rip out that support and put it in XBMC's version of FFMPEG. Not at easy task to say the least.
The PSU's GPU has no x264 acceleration, so depending on it for decodes is a dead end.
2. The open source driver for Nvidia cards in Linux needs to take another jump or two. Sure the new hacks allow "access to the GPU" (just like we had in 2007), but Nvidia's closed source Linux driver is x86 only.
To get decent OpenGL support for the PS3's GPU (which is prerequisite for the XBMC interface) the Nouveau driver needs to take some steps up in the world.
The problem is that the Nouveau driver is easily the worst open source driver out there, because Nvidia makes such a nice closed source driver (so there is little reason to develop an awesome open driver). Nouveau is completely created from backwards engineering (Nvidia doesn't provide any help) and in my opinion is years away from being good enough for consistent OpenGL use.
3. Oh, and do all this with minmal ram. Since the hypervisor eats 64 megs or so, you have around 192 megs of RAM to do everything we do on ION boxes with a 1GB+ ram.
Ask anyone that has tried XBMC on a RAM starved AppleTV how nice that experience is compared to a real comp and you will understand that all this work will be done just to make a second class platform for XBMC thanks to the RAM issue.
In light of all that, if anyone out there still thinks a XBMC port is "inevitable," well you just aren't that smart honestly....
- Geeba - 2010-09-28 10:58
ION is fine if you have alot of time to get it working.... personaaly I dont.... subsiquently mine is winging its way back to the supplier now... for one it is a pain to setup.. I have to use windows which for me as a windows user isnt HTPC software... the footprint is to big, half way through a movie it decides to inform me of cr@p its doing in the background that I cant get rid of with the remote... keyboard time, I have no time or incling to learn linux, Dharma Live instal doesnt work, Camelot Live has no audio, remote controls I'm not even going there... the Mrs wont use it, and it went bang a month after I got it.... I'm back on old faithful the Xbox which in my experince trousers an AppleTV on everthing except native 720p.. smoother and way less clunky... and thats with 64mb RAM.
I pray for the day XBMC gets ported to a uniform platform - then the remote will work, audio will work and if I do run into problems people will have half an incling of what I'm going on about when I do get issues... maybe boxee... but why is it so ugly!
It would be nice if there was "Team XBMC" approved hardware.. ie this box, that remote, load this build and all will work etc. I'd buy it!
