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- LiquidIce629 - 2007-05-13 17:07
All of the available information about the Apple TV's hardware and linux can be found here:
yes, it does support hardware acceleration in linux with the stock NVIDIA drivers. I've already got my ATV, hacked and ready for linux. Let me know when you need testers
This thread has gotten me extremely excited about XBMC again. Keep up the great work guys!
- nate12o6 - 2007-05-13 17:11
I hate the fact that we are debating hardware specs this early so this is not a request for a port to the ps3 but only a question about the cell processor. Does anybody know how good the cell processor could decode or even encode video? It seams like it would be built for that. But i also here horrer stories about how hard it is to develope for.
- LiquidIce629 - 2007-05-13 17:20
Where is the edit button on this message board? I stand corrected, it looks like the NVIDIA library for linux only supports MPEG2 hardware acceleration... so it looks like there will be some work to do to get it playing any kind of high res video in linux.
Quote:The Linux NVidia binary drivers are not documented to support anything but MPEG2 offloading, so PureVideo is currently unsupported for Linux.
There is also Apple TV bootloader information here for anyone interested: http://www.mythic-beasts.com/resources/appletv/mb_boot_tv/
- pike - 2007-05-13 17:37
PS3 would be so mint
REAL SHAME they have disabled GPU access. This is a much bigger issue than people seem to realize. Accelerated gpu drivers aren't only needed for a powerful skinning engine, it's definetely REQUIRED to get proper (accelerated) video playback. Please note, this has not so much to do with which videocodec is used.
nate12o6 Wrote:I hate the fact that we are debating hardware specs this early so this is not a request for a port to the ps3 but only a question about the cell processor. Does anybody know how good the cell processor could decode or even encode video? It seams like it would be built for that. But i also here horrer stories about how hard it is to develope for.
- nate12o6 - 2007-05-13 17:45
I know the xbmc team has talked with microsoft about getting a dev liscence and where denied. Would you say the chances with sony would also be 0?
- pike - 2007-05-13 18:00
If YellowDog Linux doesn't get access, I think chances are pretty slim we will get it. We're both opensource afaik.
nate12o6 Wrote:question #2
- _max_ - 2007-05-13 18:18
szsori Wrote:I have a HTPC that I use in a different room instead of my Xbox. It actually runs quieter than the Xbox. Not saying it's silent, but it's far more easy to customize a PC to make it silent than customizing a console or STB.
Im sorry but asking shuttle to do a custom setup for XBMC? do you know how much money goes into designin a motherboard? i asked for a dev board from a company and they asked me to send back a detailed plan of what application i would build ontop of it that would sell atleast 200.000 units. it costs ALOT of money, people have asked asus and abit to create linux friendly motherboards for years, theres just not enough money in it.
And i recommended the apple products cause they stay the same for ages.
Do you know how many pc combinations there is ? for each damn setup there are wierd bugs, and hardware missfits that will cause headaches. If you use a console thats going to be the same for 10 years you can focus on the application. Just look at Windows, how stable would it not have been if it ran on a platform that used the same hardware for 10 years? Look at Porsche.. wanna know why they have cars that barely break down? cause its been the same shit for 10-15 years with minor modifications, thus its ultra-ultra tested.
- _max_ - 2007-05-13 18:22
Gamester17 Wrote:I have been thinking about this during the last couple of days. I now like to argue that besides the 'good old' Xbox (and possible future ports to PS3 and Xbox 360 which I do not think we should discuss in this specific topic-thread), when the Linux port of XBMC becomes mature enough for end-users to fully use it will probebely be a very good idea to keep two (and only two) specific 'locked-down' x86-based computer platforms (or motherboard) with different specifications and differently priced as the 'locked-down' concrete reference hardware and the sole computer platform that Team-XBMC will officialy support. Smart would probebely be to have one relativly inexpensive ($500 USD or less) low-end computer hardware model and one expensive ($1500 USD or less) high-end computer hardware model, both with clearly specified minimum requirements and exactly detailed hardware parts, (that way the users can let their needs and size of their pockets decide which model to go for).
sorry for a large quote, You CANT lock down xbmc to a specific motherboard, motherboards arn't sold for more than 6-12 months (6 if noone buys them, even less, 12 if they are _really_ popular..) What happens after 12 months? support the next montherboard with an entire different sb/nb chipset? its stupid trying to get xbmc on a computer, the only thnig it would work on for longer than 12 months is a console.
- pike - 2007-05-13 20:16
@ _max_: your quoting skillz leave alot to be desired. don't repeat this mistake or I will have to take measures. thanks for the apology though
Here's todays Linux progress Screenshot (13th of May 2007): http://i6.tinypic.com/6gl79rn.jpg
We had another breakthrough and now OpenGL works quite well (for GUI rendering) atleast on Nvidia and Intel gfx on Ubuntu.
- mace - 2007-05-13 21:53
First I must say that I Like Gamester17 idea about keeping the list of supported hardware very short.
According to me that's one of the major issues with Media Portal. Since they got so much supported hardware and fetures, the quality isn't keeping up despite a lot of hard work.
The A TV is a nice box and i would love to see it as a XBMC box but as I reed the specs, it does require a TV with DVI/HDMI input. Isn't that a little tough demand on the low-end alternative?
I would like to add a SCART or S-video output as a requirement on the low-end variant. These outputs will lower quality but they will provide a possibility to hook up to older TV.