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- sonic - 2005-05-17 12:54
great solexalex :kickass: .. thnx for working on this nice feature. :thumbsup:
- kayser9soze - 2005-05-19 04:37
it would be awesome to have that on modded xbox's i'll try working on some sort of cam program with a few ppl if progress is made with this program otherwise it's pointless. an instant messenger with cam capabilities would be awesome, alex if u need help with it just let me know. i have a few ideas on how to combine the two, also i'm a little stumped on the stream pack process, i have someone writting out the script but he's all slow.
- trejkaz - 2005-05-19 06:49
camera would be interesting, but you'd need the client to support sip for it to even be worth starting such a project... otherwise it would connect to nothing useful.
the other thing is, if you were able to use a usb webcam from xbmc, there would be nothing stopping you using a usb capture device of some other kind... which means xbmc could capture video, could it not? that would be even more awesome as i could record tv shows with it then. :-)
- solexalex - 2005-05-19 18:57
i'm not sure video could be done with jabber (i found a library to use xmpp language, but not sure video can be used with it)
furthermore, i can't tell you how hard it is for me to make it work correctly...
what i can do right now :
-xbmc can send a message
-xbmc can receive some messages
i use a thread to process the xmpp process. this thread seems to make it hard to use... my english is not good enough to explain you what kind of problem i meet. but what i can say, is that i can't find out what is wrong some times...
anyway i do my best to find a way to release something usable as soon as possible..
xmpp can be usefull for many other things : file transfer, bots, launch player from any place of the world
lol (not very usefull, but some ideas can come with time.)
- trejkaz - 2005-05-20 01:54
video is tricky as it doesn't belong to "instant messaging", which more or less covers text messaging with a few related topics (i've always argued that file transfer doesn't even belong in instant messaging, because we already have http, ftp, scp, bittorrent and a dozen other protocols which work just as well already.)
there are video extensions for xmpp which have been drafted, but nobody actually uses them. at the current point in time it would be more sane to use sip for video chats, and to keep the video chat client separate if need be.
incidentally, sip is supposedly what the proper msn messenger (as opposed to windows messenger) uses for video... and also what those rare video phones use. it can do audio as well of course, and can be bridged to the real phone network through hundreds of providers. it can do instant messaging as well in theory, but doesn't do it well and has less features than xmpp does in that area.
- kayser9soze - 2005-05-20 03:22
i agree on the sip part, i mean it is still possible to add streaming video chat to a messenger program. though the memory usage would probably cripple performance. also to the person who wanted to capture video, 20 seconds of mid quality video uses 2.6 of hard drive could you image how often you'd be crashing your xbox from low drive space? it's risky because it'll be an open source allowing incoming and outgoing connection on a full time basis while engaged in video chat. usually most programs stream content but the connection is already down while you watch until you select your next stream or the programs next action.
- trejkaz - 2005-05-20 06:31
the idea would be to encode the video. only a schmuck captures video and stores it in its native format... cards these days even do the encoding for you, right?
- solexalex - 2005-05-20 15:26
trejkaz Wrote:i've always argued that file transfer doesn't even belong in instant messaging, because we already have http, ftp, scp, bittorrent and a dozen other protocols which work just as well alreadyjust imagine : a jabber bot that answer your request for updating scripts ... lol
i think you can forget video as for now...
- C-Quel - 2005-06-30 16:58
:bump:
- solexalex - 2005-07-01 13:49
help needed....
i am bored to script for now... if greatest python's guru want to give a help, they are welcome...