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- jaredharley - 2007-10-02 21:11
Unfortunately, my talents are weak compared to most of the master skinners in these forums
However, I think Mike's right, and this can make a difference - I'll support it as much as I can!
- Broads - 2007-10-02 21:28
Sounds like a plan Mike, I'll help where and when I can.
- SyphOn - 2007-10-02 22:50
It's a realy good a idea, but... it realy needs a good method or a strict structure for it to work. Like mentioned before, people also have real life which can get in the way sometime.
I hope u can get this to work!
- BritneysPAIRS - 2007-10-02 23:04
I have no issues helping.... but for me there is a few issues that skinners cant control that I like to sort out for myself. I have many ideas and fully functioning stuff that isnt in any skin ive seen and would hand any sources over or help. The concept is the most important part and locking the vision down, the skinning side is pretty easy just takes time. I myself use only PM3 modded but I am currently doing exactly what you say and im looking at exactly what I want in a skin and ill spend a long time making sure everything is exactly the way I want it.
- MikeBeecham - 2007-10-03 00:03
very good point there BP, and one that we should begin to focus in on. The first thing we will need to do is look at what is already out there in terms of functionality and design, then look at something better.
Mind you, in terms of design I have to say that thedeViL's Fluid is one of the nicest mock-ups I've seen that gives the professional nature of MCE, etc a run for it's money.
- BritneysPAIRS - 2007-10-03 00:44
ive been doing the concept and looking at issues I can and cant solve though SVN but its based upon this design http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQewtw2PE1Y and I agree fluid is the best concept pics ive seen...
- Jezz_X - 2007-10-03 01:39
It would be at this point I would like to interject and say that any skin that has a chance of becoming new default needs to full support all resolutions and can't just be concerned with looking fantastic on 720p and up and leaving all the 4x3 users in the dirt. Also for me the biggest killer for compatiblility is Pal and NTSC 16x9 because they still use the same screen res as 4x3 but are suppossed to be 1/3rd wider thus you get less pixels making everything look worse again.
Also it needs to be somthing that the average idiot user who has never used XBMC before can handle this means
*No hidden side menus (like xTV) everything needs to visible for the user to use.
*No 10,000 skin settings just so people can set it up to how they think it should be by default
*No huge Images and animations taking up resources, memory, cpu cycles (mc360 background animation) from what should be used for (video Playback)
*It needs to have nice large clear fonts with full unicode char support that even someone with a crappy 48cm CRT TV can read 10ft or more away
*Navigation needs to be logical ie : having menus buttons above lists/panels that instead of going up to get to you have to go sideways is bad
*It needs to work with default settings so no huge thumbs taking up 1/2 of the screen because the default icon cache will make them look crap
Sorry if this sounded a little negative but its just how I see it to be usefull as a default Compromise to 100% beauty is the key and you need to go for function over form
- BritneysPAIRS - 2007-10-03 03:25
I wasnt looking at a new default...but my focus is making it alot better for the furture eg Linuq. PM3 is the best comprise for features and all res but needs a complete revamp for 720p or a new prettier skin for that res IMO. Everytime ive mocked up a preview skin to look great on my HDTV its looked bad in 4x3 or even 16x9 and vice versa. PM3 looks great in both 4x3 and 16x9 but just good at 720P IMO... so for me im only looking at future direction, PM3 to me is the best comprise for all things and its very difficult to develop a vision of a skin to perform as good as this across all screen sizes and low memory of the xbox.
- Jezz_X - 2007-10-03 03:56
Thats my whole point BritneysPAIRS
- BritneysPAIRS - 2007-10-03 04:21
