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- CASHMON3Y - 2008-10-05
jochenz Wrote:I tested XBMC live on my laptop:70 dropped frames isnt to bad on a laptop with only 2GHz.
HP Compaq 6910p
Intel Core2Duo T7300 @ 2,0 GHz
2 GB of memory
playing the "killa bird sample"
CPU load went up to about 80%
framerate was about 20 fps
but for some reason it said it was dropping frames like hell "dropped frames: 70".
I dont understand why CPUload would not be max-ed out, though dropping frames.
I'll try the XBMC live tomorrow on my:
desktop:
Asus M2A-VM HDMI
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+
See how it holds.
- amdmannen - 2008-10-05
But fps is way off what i should be.
Cores not maxing out could be that the system reserves some for the core system.
- Musta78 - 2008-10-13
What kind of reading/writing speed should we look for if we wanna use a usb pen as "harddrive"?
Maybe this one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220252
Any thoughts?
- Kismukk - 2008-10-18
I tested XBMC Live on my office desktop pc:
HP DC7800p SFF
Intel C2D E6550 2,33 GHz
2 GB of memory
Intel GMA X3100 onboard VGA
test video was the "killa bird sample"
15 dropped frames with some visible hiccup
so this machine failed, it doesn`t play the "killa bird sample" well.
But I tried some other sample 720p and 1080p videos, and them played fine.
This box could be a good choice with XBMC Live. Small, silent and look nice.
Only the digital audio out is missing.
- BLKMGK - 2008-10-18
Kismukk - if you can manage to overclock it to around 3ghz and retest the result could be VERY interesting... 15 dropped frames on that clip is not too bad
- Kismukk - 2008-10-20
I`m afraid the overclock is not possible on that machine
- Pahalial - 2008-10-29
Alright, so I'm planning on building one of these puppies. Would the Intel GMA3100 integrated graphics in this shuttle be good enough with an E8400? I see a few people in this thread saying things worked better with a real graphics card, but from what I'm seeing the 8400gs doesn't have HDMI out and things will start to get hot as I go further up.
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=33732
Also, anyone have advice on cooling for the E8400? Stock HSF fine [and quiet enough?] or should I go aftermarket?
Oh, and RAM. Anywhere 1GB+ still fine or should I splurge and go 4GB?
For those who bought barebones Shuttles, did they have an included PSU and if so was it powerful enough? Did you buy a replacement 300W external from Shuttle directly?
- gyrene2083 - 2008-10-29
Regarding the Shuttle I asked the same question and was told that the Powersupply will handle the load. The only reason I would change it would be because the stock fans are too loud, that is according to the reviews I have read from owners. They all say the same thing, that it's loud. If you want to make it quiet you could always try the pico powersupply. But again I'm still learning myself, maybe one of these savvy veterans can chime in a little more.
-Semper Fi
gyrene2083
- BLKMGK - 2008-10-30
The E8400 runs very cool even overclocked. I have a 65nm quad in a Shuttle overclocked pretty good and while it does get HOT the XPC cooler cools it - the E8400 should be fine. XPC aren't tooo loud unless the fans kick into high gear as they do on my quad when I transcode (100% CPU for HOURS). I think you'll find the powersupply is fine even though it's not rated really high. I will admit I've not used one as an HTPC though, they all sit in my home office but I've had like 4-5 of the silly things! PSU comes with the Shuttle XPC.
RAM, I run 2Gigs without issue and much over 3Gigs you run into addressing issues that 64bit is required to solve - I would stick to 32bit. You can still have 4gigs of memory mind you but it won't be fully utilized.
The GMA3100 I cannot speak to, you could always TRY it and then swap in a low end NVIDIA standalone if it doesn't work out well. IMO you'll be happier with the NVIDIA. <shrug>
Hope that helps!
- Pahalial - 2008-10-30
BLKMGK Wrote:The E8400 runs very cool even overclocked. I have a 65nm quad in a Shuttle overclocked pretty good and while it does get HOT the XPC cooler cools it - the E8400 should be fine. XPC aren't tooo loud unless the fans kick into high gear as they do on my quad when I transcode (100% CPU for HOURS). I think you'll find the powersupply is fine even though it's not rated really high. I will admit I've not used one as an HTPC though, they all sit in my home office but I've had like 4-5 of the silly things! PSU comes with the Shuttle XPC.
RAM, I run 2Gigs without issue and much over 3Gigs you run into addressing issues that 64bit is required to solve - I would stick to 32bit. You can still have 4gigs of memory mind you but it won't be fully utilized.
The GMA3100 I cannot speak to, you could always TRY it and then swap in a low end NVIDIA standalone if it doesn't work out well. IMO you'll be happier with the NVIDIA. <shrug>
Hope that helps!
Awesome! Thanks for the help. Going to try the onboard video, see how it goes.
- Ebbo - 2008-10-31
http://eu.shuttle.com/de/DesktopDefault.aspx/tabid-72/170_read-14978/
What do you think about this one?
Looks nice, good Hardware:
Intel ATOM 330 Processor (Codename: Diamondville)
2x 1,6 GHz Kerntakt, 533 MHz FSB
2x 512kB L2-Cache
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 (GMA950)
....
- gbyte - 2008-10-31
May work, but no HD. It can play only SD content.
- BLKMGK - 2008-10-31
XBMC works with OpenGL 1.4 but 2.0 is recommended... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GMA950#Table_of_GMA_graphics_cores_and_chipsets
The ATOM is indeed not fast enough for HD unless maybe it's 720P.
- Danzig - 2008-11-01
This is the new dual-core atom we're talking about here:
http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-6493-view-Atom-330-FullHD-1080p-benchmark.html
- Pahalial - 2008-11-04
Trip report: The onboard Intel 3100 graphics does not seem to be delivering all that well, even on just 720p (though admittedly some hard ones.) Plays fine but a bit jerky. This is with the E8400 OC'd to 3.6 GHz, but I think I can get it higher. Going to try now, will report back, probably going to pick up a 8400GS anyway though ($50, wow. that's awesomely cheap.)
Did a bit of investigating into the 3100, it would seem it still only supports OpenGL 1.4. I figure that's probably why.