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- rwparris2 - 2008-09-23 23:54
TeknoJnky Wrote:Good idea, for my own use, I would rather have all videos in one node and use filters when I want to show only 1 category.
That could be done with my proposed feature, however at this point I have to wonder why not just use file mode?
- Gamester17 - 2008-09-24 01:33
rwparris2 Wrote:A better solution IMO is custom categories. Having Home Movies mixed with 'Real' Movies yet having TV Shows & Music Videos separated is inconsistent, even if you don't consider it clutter.http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=33710
I created a ticket asking for custom categories here: http://trac.xbmc.org/ticket/4969
- rwparris2 - 2008-09-24 05:47
Gamester17 Wrote:http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=33710
I forgot about that! Should have done a search... anyways, thanks for adding a link to the trac ticket for me.
- SwissElite - 2011-01-24 17:47
jmarshall Wrote:In particular, I need to hear from those of you who make use of the Genre, Actors, Years, Directors, Studios "nodes" in the movie or tvshow library.
2. Could this be done better in an alternate way (eg by enabling a "filter" on one or more genres)?
I don't use the categories genre, actors, etc. for movies, im only interested in the title of the movies. However, in the videolibrary showing the titles of the movies things could be improved.
Movies that cannot be matched with the scrapper are not added to the library, they have to be added manually or with an .nfo file. This incurs additional effort a) identifying the files that have not been added, b) browsing to them and c) adding them manually to the library. This process could be improved by I.) adding all movies that could be matched with the scrapper as it is done today and II) adding all other movies that could not found during the scrapping but are located in the video folders unformatted (e.g. if the movie "averyniceday_CD1.avi" could not be matched, it should show up as "averyniceday_CD1" in the videolibrary. This way, the "unscrapped" movies could be identified quickly and renamed easily.
- SwissElite - 2011-01-27 20:24
I read through the whole thread again in order to understand better the process how movies are added to the library. What I am looking for is a way to have all my movies displayed in the library, no matter whether they could be scrapped or not.
The following I read in your insightful post @Gamester17:
Gamester17 Wrote:For example:
The user set a source as movies and choose whichever movie scraper for it (as they still need to pick one, in this example we say IMDb), then XBMC starts scanning all files in that source into the database under the category "Movies".
The scanner finds a file named "Pulp.Fiction.(1994).XviD.DVDrip.avi" in that source, it enters the location path including the full file-name into database but it also runs the Regular Expression Importer Filter which cleans up the name it enters for than database entry as only "Pulp Fiction", this because the Regular Expression Importer Filter would parse the name to clean it up, entering the year for that item into the database (as it assume that four digests in a parentheses is the year it was produced), also replacing the dots with spaces and remove the known 'scene ripper' tags which in this example is "xvid" and "dvdrip", also the extension is stored so that the user can still sort by extension. Now if the end-user had an XML formatted NFO for that file then all the meta data from the XML formatted NFO would also have been entered into the database with the Regular Expression Importer Filter parser.
So far so good, our file named "Pulp.Fiction.(1994).XviD.DVDrip.avi" have been entered into the database, (and all that before going online yet), so if the user did not have the internet they would now still be able to search and browse it in the library more.
Now, if some movies are not displayed in the list of movies, altough there are located in one of the locations that have been selected as the sources of movies, it is not because they could not be scrapped, but because there is some problem with the importing process using the "Regular Expression Importer Filter parser"? How do i get to that conclusion? Following the logic in your post, the movies get added to the database, no matter wether there is an internet connection to the scraper database.
If my understanding is correct (correct me if not), then the process as it stands is as follows:
1. Importing of movies to database using "Regular Expression Importer Filter parser"
Outcome: If Moviename could be formatted correctly, it is added, otherwise it is not.
2. Adding additional information to the movie name by downloading it fromthe scrapper database.
Outcome: Moviename (those which were added) + Additional information.
My suggestion would be to change this process slightly.
1. Importing of movies to database using "Regular Expression Importer Filter parser"
Outcome: If Moviename could be formatted correctly, it is added as it is done today. Otherwise it is added with the filename and the annotation [format error]
2. Those movies in the database not containing a format error are looked up as it is done today in scrapper.
Outcome: Moviename (those which could be formatted) + additioanal information; Filename (those which could not be formatted) + annotation (format error)
With this process, the user sees all the movies that could not be formatted automatically, and can change them manually, but there is no need anymore to check for each movie wether it has been added and if not, to go and look for it, and add it manually.
Happy to receive your feedback, Gamester
(and rest 
)
- SwissElite - 2011-04-12 11:19
i'd still be interested in a feedback in a better working scraper
- psikohunter - 2011-04-20 21:25
I agree with this. Unlike the scrapers/library options for Movies and TV show. the options for Music videos could be much better. The following are just a few I would personally like to see fixed/changed.
I have an extensive music video collection from all around the world. Including both new and older videos. And because of this only a small portion are found with any given scraper (e.g MTV Yahoo). Also the way music videos are listed in the library is confusing. no matter if its list or media info, By artist, album or title. it is always listed by title first making it difficult to find the video you want.
What I would like to see is an improvement in the way they are listed. for example if you chose to list by artist it should display the name as "artist - title." And truly list alphabetically by artist first, not song title. (My main issue)
Second I would like the option to "scrape" the folder and add them by file name. I have my videos named in the standard convention as such: "artist - title." This way all the videos will be added, and not just a portion. and they will all be correct. No misinformation or wrong names from scraping the internet.
Just my opinion.
- mcosta1973 - 2011-04-23 04:05
I am currently using mythtv and considering switching to XBMC, the only thing preventing me is the lack of this feature. The Video Library interface much slicker and would be my preferred browsing option - if I have to use file mode to view all my shows, I might as well stay with what I use currently.
I have around 9,000 movies/tv episodes and do not want to go through the process of renaming them to match the scraper format (although 80% of them already conform to it) and will definitely not be creating hundreds of .nfo files.
I'm confused as to why I can't add a file to the library and manually set the tvdb info through the gui. It seems to me that you should be able to edit all metadata information through the interface. Mythtv scans all new files into the library and associates them with the folder they are located in, then you have the opportunity to Edit Details - changing the tmdb/tvdb number, season and episode number, and everything else. Then you run the scraper on that entered info and it grabs the artwork/etc. from the site.
Let me give you an example of what I tried to do to add a file with metadata info to the library.
1. I entered File Browse mode and went to a folder I have called "Blue Planet".
2. Right-clicked on that folder to Set Content to TV Show. When to TV show information, it found Blue Planet and loaded in all the info for the show.
3. Inside the Blue Planet folder, I have many files in this format "BBC - Blue Planet 02 - The Deep.avi". If I right click on that file and select Episode Information, I would have expected to be able to edit the details manually for that episode (setting season and episode number) and then run the scraper with that info. Instead it runs the scraper automatically and returns no info found.
4. If I add the file manually to the library, it doesn't appear under the Blue Planet show in the Video Library.
5. If I manually edit the database, I can get the episode to appear under the Blue Planet show, but then clicking Episode Info on it just resets the data and it disappears from the library.
I know the answer now to make it work would be to rename the files, but there are potentially thousands of them and it is not something I am willing to do. What would be ideal would be the ability to individually scrape episodes inside the gui after you have entered the appropriate data.
- sokolum - 2011-05-01 08:47
spiff Wrote:where are those movies from? reason i ask if so we can make a scraper to cover them if a suitable backend is available.
Like homemade movies maybe?
I have a lot of them.
It sounds the option we dont have, adding subcategories/genres:
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=33710
Edit: added link
- stensgaard - 2011-10-07 12:04
I would like to add my vote to the original posters idea!
but I think we could make this work so everyone would be happy, simply by changing the order things are done
1: add movie to database using just the folder name and a default (file missing) cover!
2: check if there is a folder.jpg in the folder - and use that if there is one
(now everyone with home movies are happy)
3: run the scraper like we do today, and if movie is found update the info
and if the movie is not found, it's still visible on the wall
so just by making proper folder names and adding a folder.jpg we can add any home movie to our movie wall!
hope this makes sense!