xb2iris Wrote:@all

Thanks so much for all the support thus far, got about 30% of what i need, or realistically, if I'm not going to get a goodish PC, 20% of the way... Progress has dried up somewhat though, so especially to all those guys who have asked for feature and it's either been included in previous builds or are confirmed for next release, help a dude out... it takes quite a few hours to add every single feature requested, so it's understandable if I ask for your guys help to get a new release out.

Anyways, look forward to hearing from you. Support is needed and will be much Greatly appreciated. And guys, Your names will be added to the Core section in a Special Thanks section, so officially, you'll all be a part of the skin as of Volume IV. Thanks again for all your support.

MikeBeecham Wrote:or alternativelty, you could put the skin into the SVN and ask people to help in other ways. Maybe through real-time communication with other people they could maybe help you complete what you have left to do

Doraemonn Wrote:OK, I'm gonna be brutally honest here, so please bear with me.

I'm having a hard time buying the fact that your shipping company's not going to refund you a penny - even standard insurance, mandatory for most overseas shipping methods should more than amply cover at least your Xbox. But this is all moot.

Doraemonn Wrote:OK, I'm gonna be brutally honest here, so please bear with me.

I'm having a hard time buying the fact that your shipping company's not going to refund you a penny - even standard insurance, mandatory for most overseas shipping methods should more than amply cover at least your Xbox. But this is all moot.

The fact of the matter is, I just sent you ten of your queen's pounds - not because I necessarily believe that you wont get your money back off the shipping, but because I think your work is generally top notch and there is no reason why you shouldn't be rewarded for your efforts - particularly because you make the results of such efforts available for free. Ironic, isn't it?

Keep up the great work. Although you might want to rethink the pseudo-angled frames, in my humble opinion they're not as elegant even as the original AEON ones. Also you're soon going to be competing against STARK, so the style race is on

All the best, look forward to IV.

D

mcfreiz Wrote:donation made (mike cheung)
keep up the good work

Jezz_X Wrote:You know its a rare day these days when I actually agree with Mike but I have to agree that sending you money is not the only way to continue the Horizons project.

I can really appreciate that you lost hardware and need cash to replace it but now it basically seems like your holding the skin for ransom to people (If I don't get the cash I wont be making Horizons anymore) (if you don't donate I'm going to be less inclined to add your feature)

I'm sure that after a while you will eventually get yourself a new computer/xbox even if you don't get the money from other people it just may take longer.

To be honest the whole asking for money for this sort of stuff really gets on my nerves I hated it when Blackbolt did it for mc360 It bugged me when djh_ did it for AEON and I disliked the original post here for Horizons but I kept quiet because I understand.
But the last post I quoted is starting to get around to the whole come on keep giving me money I haven't got enough. You have asked once you even pinned the topic in your section of the forum just leave it at that and stop asking again and again and be greatfull you get anythign at all, if people really want to give you money they will don't try and guilt them into it.

And if you cannot continue to work on Horizons just because you need money for hardware and arn't getting enough then let someone else try or just wait until you can get the hardware yourself

And yes I know this post sounds rude but its not my intention

R111 Wrote:Jezz post not rude but rite.

me wonders how many % of those $ goes to djh ?

konfoo Wrote:Honest but not factual. I'm a South African expat living in the USA now. I've had two shipments 'lost' - one stolen outright, and another held hostage by an underhanded middleman customs clearing company in NY.

Insurance is not mandatory for sea-freight. And when you do use it, good luck collecting when all the middle-men are pointing fingers (often in different countries) at each other. The usual tactic is to gum up the works so as to introduce a delay of a month or so, at which time they put your stuff up for action and pocket the cash (customer never collected goods).

Competes2win Wrote:I'm glad that Jezz_x posted in this thread. Because this thread annoyed me as well when I first saw it. However I too took the high road and decided not to post. I did this because 1. no one else seemed to feel the same way I did. and 2. I did understand the basic concept of having people contribute to the skin.

I understand the loss of hardware. But it happens and it is really one's own responsibility to replace such things... After all I'm fairly sure the computer must have been used for many other personal things other than the skin...

I have tested "horizonz" and find it to be a nice mod of Aeon... However the most significant thing I find unfavorable about this situation is the fact that xb2iris is asking for money for a project that is still just a mod someone else's work. The majority of Horizonz is still DjH's Aeon.

All this aside I won't argue the fact that people donated upon their own free will, that is respectable and if they chose to do that than I won't step in their way.

This is just how I feel and don't mean to be disrespectable to anybody.

malloc Wrote:suggestion: start a blog. post screen shots with updates regularly. add a donate button that everyone can see.

sorry if this has already been addressed, i didn't want to read 5 pages worth of this thread.

xb2iris Wrote:....... nyways... didn't know anyone else ever asked for donations before... thought i was the pioneer... dam... nyways... to tell u the truth... if ur getting the idea that i'm holding the forum to ransom... then u don't have a clue how much effort i've put into this thing... but besides the effort... and thats not what this entire thing is for, this forum is completely a creation of impatience... u can ask anyone who's been with horizonz since the beginning... i've made certain i've been in touch with everyone who posts on any of these forums... and this skin is almost entirely user specified i.e. most of this skin, is based on opinions given to me by others... and its become addictive helping the masses to put this skin together the way they want it (and that includes u dude)... so, as i'm impatient, and having a free month in which to do as much as possible on this thing, i've asked for help so i could do that... considering that the entirety of the coding has been done while i was doing a 9-6 job... guess it makes sense saying this would be a great month to do a lot...

and guess what... when u requested those scan bars for video and music navigation... i put them in straight in there after i knew how to do them... thats the process of this skin... guess i'm a bit needy at the moment... but we all needy some time... at least i'm needy with a purpose... if it nags u, i know, theres nothing i can do about that... i'm sorry jezz_x, but i totally understand ur point, and i can assure u that i'm not holding anyone to randsom... everyone who asked me for something, knows they're most probably going to get their request and i can only release a new volume in february based on situation and i need help to change that... these are facts, not trying to imply anything by them... implication isn't the name of the game man...
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Quote:Title: Help

Thanks so much for supporting Horizonz in the past and I hope that the skin's progress hasn't dissapointed you over it's lifespan
and that I've

Unfortanetely, there comes a time when a skinner needs the help of his support base, and sadly, this is that time. Check the link
below, and I hope theres something you can do to assist me in bringing Volume IV out asap.

http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=41035

Thanks for all the assistance in the past, and feel free to send a request or suggestion my way. Hope I hear from you soon. Thanks again!

Your skinner buddy

Gary

-BC