[REQUEST] Sublight Subtitles Plugin, anyone interested in developing this? - Printable Version
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- Bram77 - 2009-05-05 15:31
Fantastic that you're looking into this. OpenSubtitles is unusable atm. I can't get any subs from it with Sublight nor with SubDownloader or any XBMC script.
The Sublight db is returning results most of the time. But the db obviously should grow to be a full alternative for the OpenSubtitles database. Uploading subtitles to the SubLight db requires users to be the 'author' of a sub-file, or at least have permission from the author to upload them. I don't create subs or know anyone who does, otherwise I would be uploading them.
The application is really very cool. It's working extremely well. The context-menu option is superb and allows me to explain how to download subs over the phone to my non-nerd friends. The only thing I'm still missing is 'TV season support', meaning... a way to let Sublight scan a directory for video files and automatically search for subtitles for every video file found and allowing to select the sub to download. Like Subdownloader does (which doesn't work anymore for me). A context-menu option for that would be fantastic!
I'm curious... how did you manage to make the app look so nice, office 2007 style, macofaco?
- Dan Dare - 2009-05-05 15:49
Had a bit of time to look at it and played with the Sublight app as well, and I agree with Bram77 - high points for usability and design, very easy to use, downloading and trying the subtitles, and even the upload was very easy as well. The webservice is a nice way to integrate with XBMC, and even if it doesn't support all the other sources as the Sublight app does, the authors were kind enough to publish the sources for the C# plugins, we can inspire from the code to introduce additional sources in the plugin.
Thumbs up to macofaco!
- macofaco - 2009-05-06 21:44
Thank you both.
Regarding office 2007 look - I improvized and developed my own Ribbon control (it is not perfect but looks good enough). For menus I used code from this link: http://www.codeproject.com/KB/menus/Office2007Renderer.aspx
"TV season support" feature is added to wish list but it's low priority at the moment. Did you try to use SublightCmd for this?
If you have any questions regarding web service just ask.
Plugins which are available for download from http://www.subtitles-on.net/ were all developed by me
Sublight client and server will be actively developed to bring new features (for example subtitle editing, subtitle deletion, improved SublightCmd, batch subtitle upload, .....)
I also hope to upgrade current server because it has very limited resources. When I upgrade to new server it should be lightning fast
- Dan Dare - 2009-05-06 22:53
No need to bother you (just yet :-), it's how SOAPpy module interprets the WSDL file, it seems it has has problems with certain types, different order of nodes and what's worse and probably causing my problems comes up with incorrect default values for nillable nodes... Later on I might try with creating the XML by hand and pushing that through httplib, I think it might works better, althought I will have to deal myself with parsing the results...
Thanks anyways, the webservice responed quickly enough and the app is very handy. Btw, nice app you got there, easy to search and preview the subtitles, I even uploaded a few subs I managed to get from OpenSubtitles from the web, through some kind of a miracle...
- Bram77 - 2009-05-07 00:36
Thanks for the info, you did a really nice job there.
Do you have any intention to make Sublight a commercial product in the future? [url=http://forum.xbmc.org/member.php?action=profile&uid=43284][/url]
- macofaco - 2009-05-07 06:37
I would like to keep Sublight service as free and fair as possible. But if I don't receive enough donations to cover server/hosting costs I might consider some kind of "contribution program".
For example, user could contribute in different ways:
-translating Sublight or writing Sublight plugin
-publishing and linking subtitles
-other contributions (for example implementing Sublight service in XBMC), etc.
Do you think this would be acceptable/fair?
- Bram77 - 2009-05-07 11:25
Sure, of course it's your application so you can do whatever you like. But if you want a successful app I think keeping it free is the way to go! Last.FM is going to die because it's not free any more (in most of the world), which is like asking money for Wikipedia uage. Awfull! Maybe adding some advertisement on your site could help to?
It's nice to know it will be free of charge in the future so the people developing plugins for XBMC, or even write native support into XBMC, will do it for long term bennefits .
I'll translate it to Dutch asap
If I can find the time I might have a look at writing plugins for some Dutch subtitle sites (even though I only use English subs myself and only because my girlfriend has a hearingdisability).
- Dan Dare - 2009-05-10 02:29
I finally went the dyi-SOAP method, I struggled enough with all Python SOAP libraries I could find... building the XML requests as strings and pushing them through httlib, one step closer... Remains to get the download ticket and actually download the subtitles, hopefully tomorrow...
- macofaco - 2009-05-10 08:47
I am impressed you are doing this without asking any questions
I will explain some things anyway. Procedure for downloading subtitle is this:
- Dan Dare - 2009-05-10 14:48
That shows how not used I am to working with service providers, we usually "hack" our way into website / resources with little or no information at hand, the information your provided is more then welcome. I've been using the online SOAP client that shows the request / response XMLs and then used Fiddler to peek at the HTTP communication between the Sublight client and the webservice. Again, thanks for your input, very useful.