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- black88mx6 - 2004-11-06 04:04
welcome back stcogoli and thanks for the updates. once i get the next cvs i will post an update.
- nem - 2004-11-07 14:32
it would be great if .kar (midi karaoke) can be played in xmbc :thumbsup: since there are thousands of free kar files for download on the net and lyrics text will be displayed in high resolution, better than low-res cdg . but implement a general midi software synthersizer for xbox is not easy
- stcogoli - 2004-11-07 22:59
Quote:it would be great if .kar (midi karaoke) can be played in xmbci agree that the more formats supported, the better we are off but like you pointed out, you also have to take into account the amount of work required versus the advantages gained.
Quote:since there are thousands of free kar files for download on the netthere are literally hundreds of thousands of .cdg files available on irc if you know where to look.(don't ask me, though...
)Quote:and lyrics text will be displayed in high resolution, better than low-res cdgi agree that cdg res is a bit low but it has the advantages of being a stream which can display any graphics, not just text and of being independent of the music format. i personally prefer having low res on graphics and high quality on music rather than having high res text-only with low-quality midi music. i guess the best would be to have a text stream that is not integrated in a crappy music format. you could then have high-quality on lyrics and on music (and no graphics but that wouldn't bother me). i dunno if such a format exists but if it does, i think rendering the text stream would be easy and worth it but i don't personally like .kar and would only add that feature if someone can point me to a canned implementation that could easily be ported.
- monkeyhappy - 2004-11-10 11:40
ms communicator support is already in cvs, it has mic support for gamers voice talk, so it might a good start point for mic support in karaoke now.
- Gamester17 - 2004-11-10 18:13
@stcogoli, i have a question that's probebely slightly off-topic(?) and that question is; does this (your code) support standard cd+g cd's (discs)?, that is retail cd+g karaoke cdda cd's that one can buy in some stores?, (that's the type of discs some standalone cd/dvd-players or karaoke-machines support). reason i ask is that need the info for the xbmc project page (link)
- stcogoli - 2004-11-10 19:53
Quote:ms communicator support is already in cvs, it has mic support for gamers voice talk, so it might a good start point for mic support in karaoke now.i know, i just saw it. i've been working on that for the past few days. this should definitely speed things up.
Quote:@stcogoli, i have a question that's probebely slightly off-topic(?) and that question is; does this (your code) support standard cd+g cd's (discs)?, that is retail cd+g karaoke cdda cd's that one can buy in some stores?, (that's the type of discs some standalone cd/dvd-players or karaoke-machines support). reason i ask is that need the info for the xbmc project page (link)nope. on a cd+g compact disc, the cdg data is stored in the subchannel stream. most standard cd-rom drives can't read subchannel data and given the very cheap nature of the xbox drives, i've always assumed that they can't physically read the subchannel. even if it could physically read it (which someone here more knowledgeable than me may infirm or confirm), this would also have to be supported in the software, which it is not at the moment.
- tcghost - 2004-11-11 05:28
just wanted to say that this is a very great addition to xbmc and that it would be even better if it supported .kar files as well (.kar files are midi files with synchronized lyrics in them)
- black88mx6 - 2004-11-12 02:04
just tried the new stuff; i like the option of the background, but don't like the 0-255 to set it. its too large a range. also depending on the screen calibration you still see the visualization even if you have it to 255. this is around the edged only. no quick way to turn visualization on/off with cd+g running.
it would be nice if you play a cd+g file to have it flip to the screen on instead of hitting the blue button each time also.
had many hangs running and testing the different visualizations; not sure why, but it could of been my build.
- stcogoli - 2004-11-12 02:38
Quote: i like the option of the background, but don't like the 0-255 to set it. its too large a range.good point, it is a bit too granular a range.
Quote: no quick way to turn visualization on/off with cd+g running.another good point. it's sometimes dizzying to see the vis in background.
Quote:it would be nice if you play a cd+g file to have it flip to the screen on instead of hitting the blue button each time also.also a good idea. for a vis only, it would be a little invasive to have it start automatically but if you have cgd enabled in the settings, then i guess it's ok cause you can easily turn it off.
Quote:also depending on the screen calibration you still see the visualization even if you have it to 255. this is around the edged only.the cdg display window takes its size from the overscan settings so if you see the vis on the edge, just go to settings->video and adjust the overscan width and height.
Quote:had many hangs running and testing the different visualizations; not sure why, but it could of been my build.i haven't experienced any hangs but will test it more thoroughly.
- Gamester17 - 2004-11-12 12:30
(stcogoli @ nov. 10 2004,17:53 Wrote:i very much doubt that the thomson and philips xbox dvd-rom drive support subchannel, however i suspect that the samsung drive do(?)Quote:@stcogoli, i have a question that's probebely slightly off-topic(?) and that question is; does this (your code) support standard cd+g cd's (discs)?, that is retail cd+g karaoke cdda cd's that one can buy in some stores?, (that's the type of discs some standalone cd/dvd-players or karaoke-machines support). reason i ask is that need the info for the xbmc project page (link)nope. on a cd+g compact disc, the cdg data is stored in the subchannel stream. most standard cd-rom drives can't read subchannel data and given the very cheap nature of the xbox drives, i've always assumed that they can't physically read the subchannel. even if it could physically read it (which someone here more knowledgeable than me may infirm or confirm), this would also have to be supported in the software, which it is not at the moment.
ps! probebly indirectly realted; cd-text support was implemented into libcdio for xbmc recently and only the samsung drive support it