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- tetsuo55 - 2009-06-30 09:43
Yeah the (G)UID / movie naming thing should also be discussed in a new thread.
Assuming the current IMDB system for the artwork standard.
- digitalhigh - 2009-06-30 13:06
Gangsta Wrote:mabey a reposting of the schema with the suggestions to date so that people who are viewing the thread, but haven't read it from the start can get up to speed.
tetsuo55 Wrote:Yeah the (G)UID / movie naming thing should also be discussed in a new thread.
Assuming the current IMDB system for the artwork standard.
I agree. Keep the focus of this conversation on what types of images there are, and how to deal with them appropriately...
- AnalogKid - 2009-06-30 14:48
Quick question for you XBOX guys using FATx...
if you have a movie with a pretty long name say: Close Encounters Of The Third Kind (1977) and it is too long to use as a filename, OR if you have some foreign movie title with strange characters...
How do you get it to be scraped correctly?
Do you
a) Manually create and NFO to contain the true movie name
b) Let the scraper/3rd party tool return the nearest matches and manually choose the correct one?
c) It just seems to work and you never have to manually choose the correct movie!
- xexe - 2009-06-30 16:53
AnalogKid Wrote:Quick question for you XBOX guys using FATx...
if you have a movie with a pretty long name say: Close Encounters Of The Third Kind (1977) and it is too long to use as a filename, OR if you have some foreign movie title with strange characters...
How do you get it to be scraped correctly?
Do you
a) Manually create and NFO to contain the true movie name
b) Let the scraper/3rd party tool return the nearest matches and manually choose the correct one?
c) It just seems to work and you never have to manually choose the correct movie!
I always without exception use movie.nfo with the imdb link in it. Thats all it contains and creates a 100% accurate library. Similarly tvshow.nfo for TV shows.
using that technique i care not in the slightest what the video or fodler is named it makes zero difference.
- AnalogKid - 2009-06-30 18:34
xexe Wrote:I always without exception use movie.nfo with the imdb link in it. Thats all it contains and creates a 100% accurate library. Similarly tvshow.nfo for TV shows.
using that technique i care not in the slightest what the video or folder is named it makes zero difference.
Cool, I'm guessing you do this by hand (searching IMDB to get the ID?) and have the bare minimum NFO of:
<movie>
--<id>ttxxxxx</id>
</movie>
Would that be correct?
- xexe - 2009-06-30 19:30
no i have personal scripts to do it since its such a simple format.
i.e its not an xml nfo its content are simply:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0164961/
- Gangsta - 2009-06-30 20:22
I only use XBOXs for my viewing (well I have a windows XBMC box but its too slow for video - i use it for testing stuff)
Anyway I have never copied any media onto the xbox, as im a mediaportal convert and already had several TBs of media, and run everything through SMB shares from an NTFS drive.
I tend to use MIP and MediaCompanion for scraping, but it pisses me off, i'll need to try your imdb id way of doing things. I really dont like the layout of MIP. I like mediacompanion but its always crashing. Roll on UMM
I take it that somepeople actually load up their xbox with media?? Its something I have never even considered.
- AnalogKid - 2009-06-30 21:03
Gangsta Wrote:I only use XBOXs for my viewing (well I have a windows XBMC box but its too slow for video - i use it for testing stuff)
Anyway I have never copied any media onto the xbox, as im a mediaportal convert and already had several TBs of media, and run everything through SMB shares from an NTFS drive.
I tend to use MIP and MediaCompanion for scraping, but it pisses me off, i'll need to try your imdb id way of doing things. I really dont like the layout of MIP. I like mediacompanion but its always crashing. Roll on UMM
I take it that somepeople actually load up their xbox with media?? Its something I have never even considered.
Try ember media manager, or just use the inbuilt scraping features of XBMC then 'export' your library... once done, you need never do it again!
I'm only asking about XBMC cos the the fatx file system and filename limitations.... I'm going to upload the spec again for DigitalHigh's benefit and look at how we can use the NFO to specify the <moviename> element IF the user wants to. Then the user can use IMDB if they so please, or any damn scheme they like. But if an NFO doesn't exist, it has to be movie name.
I just need to find a way for this to be very easy for newbies to understand, if it's too complicated they will never do it!
- tetsuo55 - 2009-06-30 21:14
AnalogKid Wrote:Quick question for you XBOX guys using FATx...I have this problem, the xbox does not support chinese characters in the file system, so i have to rename everything to english names, and add artwork manually.
if you have a movie with a pretty long name say: Close Encounters Of The Third Kind (1977) and it is too long to use as a filename, OR if you have some foreign movie title with strange characters...
How do you get it to be scraped correctly?
Do you
a) Manually create and NFO to contain the true movie name
b) Let the scraper/3rd party tool return the nearest matches and manually choose the correct one?
c) It just seems to work and you never have to manually choose the correct movie!
For example a series that is named in chinese "the truth of the heart" i would simply rename to truth1.avi, truth2.avi and add a folder.jpg
- xexe - 2009-07-01 01:03
AnalogKid Wrote:Try ember media manager, or just use the inbuilt scraping features of XBMC then 'export' your library... once done, you need never do it again!
I'm only asking about XBMC cos the the fatx file system and filename limitations.... I'm going to upload the spec again for DigitalHigh's benefit and look at how we can use the NFO to specify the <moviename> element IF the user wants to. Then the user can use IMDB if they so please, or any damn scheme they like. But if an NFO doesn't exist, it has to be movie name.
I just need to find a way for this to be very easy for newbies to understand, if it's too complicated they will never do it!
I do alot of library help and regex help on IRC.
I can say for sure the absolute simplest way to explain to n00bs who lets face it have no motivation to actually learn (or they would have read the wiki) is:
Create a folder.
Put one movie in it.
Place a text file called movie.nfo in this folder that contains just an imdb link to the movie.
It cannot get simpler than this and it is working naively with XBMC and is cross platform. Media manager only help windows users and IMHO are not really necessary for most of the things people use them for. I have a library to rival anyone here and I use solely this method with 100% accuracy.
I can also say for sure explaining REGEX stacking is almost an impossibility to this same user group. To this end thats why I suggested long ago one movie per folder just as the current folder.jpg works. One pile file users need to bend to our will not the other way around. Its just lazyness