Video library redesign idea - How can we improve Smart Playlists, aka Filtered Lists? - Printable Version
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- The-Boxhead - 2009-07-13 12:11
Quote:Then I have stuff like popcorn movie, Over Acting, Class, Secret Service, Chick Flick. What the heck is a popcorn movie and why do I have an Over Acting genre? I can't see myself ever saying "I really want to see a movie with a lot of Over Acting in it".
Lol at this one, i had a good laugh
I so agree with you on this one, it's a pain to keep all the genres well trimmed.
- pecinko - 2009-07-13 21:05
jmarshall Wrote:The only thing I don't like about the A-Z is putting it in the heirarchy - It just seems a clunky way to look through movies to find something to watch - I much prefer to have everything in one list instead of having to go in and out of "letters".
I must admit I do not understand you. A few posts ago I suggested browse by first letter and you said - not going to happen. Now you are saying it is a cool thing and the only problem is it looks little odd?
I believe I posted a link to Moovida site and it shows list of movies with a narrow letter list on the left side of it. Clicking on letter on the left should scroll movie list on the right to a propriete letter section. If you do not mind installing Moovida, you could try it yourself. Of course it should be populated from library data - I have a lot czech titles, so generic letter list would be useless.
Just to be clear - I took your advice to a hart, displaced remote with a keyboard and told my wife to use SHIFT+letter but since you also said you would like to make XBMC more user friendly it just do not seem like a best solution to me. Just my 2 cents.
- rwparris2 - 2009-07-13 21:37
Quote:SHIFT+letterjump2sms works just as well on a remote. sorry, I don't have time to find a link for you but searching jump2sms here in the forums or on wiki should give you results.
- pecinko - 2009-07-13 22:16
rwparris2 Wrote:jump2sms works just as well on a remote. sorry, I don't have time to find a link for you but searching jump2sms here in the forums or on wiki should give you results.
Thanx for info, I'll search for it.
- TeknoJnky - 2009-07-13 23:00
I occasionally use Info > actors to see actor thumbnails for ones I can't remember etc.
Something I would really like to use it for, is 'find more from actor' type function, where I can pull an actor, see what other movies, select a movie, see what info and other actors are in it and have the ability to play it.
bonus points would be awarded for including and indicating both available (in library) and unavailable (not in library) movie/actor info.
Essentially, I want to navigate the six degrees of kevin bacon, from within the xbmc library.
It should be noted, that I would normally access actor info from a particular/current movie. Only rarely would I access an actor list directly. I can imagine actor lists would be particularly huge compared to a movie title list.
- KidKiwi - 2009-07-13 23:28
jmarshall Wrote:...It just seems a clunky way to look through movies to find something to watch
True - for me, I don't use this method to find something to watch - I use it to return to something I am currently watching. The ability to return to a list of last played items by simply pressing the play button would remove the need for this from my perspective.
I usually use the scrollbar to cycle through my collection when I'm looking for something to watch. I personally still like the idea of being able to create custom channels (like user TV/movie/mixed channels - using smartplaylists - all completely automatic). There was another post here about this recently (but it didn't get any comments)http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=53375&highlight=jump
jmarshall Wrote:Having an independent list of letters on screen at the same time is an option perhaps, but it needs to be done intelligently (no point showing letters that don't exist, for instance).This would be a very nice addition to the skin.
As I said earlier, I made an onscreen "JumpSMS" version for PM3. I use it all the time, and it only uses one remote button to activate it (then you can use other buttons within it's window). It probably needs Next/Prev Letter added to it as well now. (Original Post here http://forum.xbmc.org/showpost.php?p=225167&postcount=21)
The trouble is, I modded this ages ago and I can't remember how I did it. - and I have to redo the mod everytime I update. Would be great if this was a permanent part of PM3 (Or any skin)
All these things will probably change once we see how the new library works
- snoxbox - 2009-07-14 00:33
One thing that I'd really like to see is xbmc automatically going to the next unwatched episode when selecting a TV Show, or being able to press play on a tv show and have it play the next unwatched ep.. I'm sure 99% of the time, users would drill down from Show-->Season-->Episode that they are currently up to.
- midgetspy - 2009-07-14 01:52
KidKiwi Wrote:True - for me, I don't use this method to find something to watch - I use it to return to something I am currently watching. The ability to return to a list of last played items by simply pressing the play button would remove the need for this from my perspective.
IMO that's a terrible way of implementing it into the skin - if you're going to have the alphabet there I'd say put it like a combination of a scrollbar and an OSX-style dock where the selected letter is magnified and centered. So maybe beside the scrollbar you'd have 10 letters of the alphabet, current letter centered and larger, and as you went down it'd update your 10 letter window and scroll by letter.
At least that's always how I envisioned it working.
- jmarshall - 2009-07-14 01:53
pecino: Perhaps I need to explain more clearly.
All I said is that A-Z browsing is IMO useless in terms of the hierarchical browsing. i.e. I see little point on clicking on "Go to my movies" and seeing a bunch of A, B, C stuff. That seems to be a horrible way to browse the movies, as I get no idea of an overview.
However, I do see the point in clicking on "Go to my movies" and seeing all my movies in addition to having a list that I can move to that allows faster browsing through the letters. As I point out above, this would have to be carefully done though.
In the meantime, either map jumpsms2 -> jumpsms9 to your remote keys, or use nextletter/prevletter - it'll be the same number of clicks pretty much.
- Nick8888 - 2009-07-14 02:16
Don't have a clue about programming but what about turning these into "navigation modules" i.e. the current scrollbar would be one and the others such as scrollA-Z could be added. In my view scrollA-Z would be the same dimensions as the current vertical scrollbar but with the 26 letters + perhaps other symbols (numbers?) in a vertical list. If a letter such as 'C' is not in the library then it will not be selectable and navigation will go from 'B' to 'D'.
This way skins could select which "navigation modules" they used and perhaps some would use multiple.
Obviously it would be alot harder when skinners start asking for horizontal ones etc