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- SlaveUnit - 2009-07-07 03:01

I understand what jmarshall is saying, but I think people like the fact of the splitting up the TV Shows and Movies because they like having different feelings for both. For me, I like have a movie type feel with pictures of film, popcorn and theaters etc for the Movies backgrounds. Then having pictures of living rooms and tv sets for TV Show. The Videos is just the "other". That is where I keep documentaries, music vids (I choose not to scan them), home movies etc. Thats just my take on why I do like the 3 choices better.


- jmarshall - 2009-07-07 03:53

You can have separate backgrounds while browsing TV shows and Movies without having them split up on the home menu - indeed, code-wise they have nothing to do with each other.

The only thing I vehemently oppose (as much as one can, whilst sitting in the cheap seats) is splitting them up on home - purely from a usability perspective: This is where this skin excels (as does PM3).

Cheers,
Jonathan


- SlaveUnit - 2009-07-07 03:59

I am referring to having the backgrounds being different on the home screen as I pass by them.


- taxigps - 2009-07-07 04:18

Thanks for your hard work. This skin is beautiful. I like it. But I think I have found some bugs.

1. Stacked video file can't display media flagging.
single file
[Image: 0907071003b26f723938194f99.jpg]

stacked file
[Image: 09070710035ff9ef1ddc9cefc5.jpg]

2. Some video OSD media info display incorrect in chinese.
[Image: 09070710033cff4407856ffdfe.jpg]


- Baphomet - 2009-07-07 04:19

Jezz_X Wrote:If you go into system info it will tell you the build date of the current version of xbmc you have I'm betting its not as new as you think

You were absolutely correct!!! I wouldn't have thought to NOT trust the T3CH upgrade script to create a working shortcut... It did install the 06/27 version but continued to load my old version as the new version was inside a second folder down the newly installed folder tree...

Thanks for that!!! Now everything's working beautifully...


- Jezz_X - 2009-07-07 05:23

taxigps Wrote:Thanks for your hard work. This skin is beautiful. I like it. But I think I have found some bugs.

1. Stacked video file can't display media flagging.
single file
http://bbs.htpc1.com/attachments/forumid_171/0907071003b26f723938194f99.jpg

stacked file
http://bbs.htpc1.com/attachments/forumid_171/09070710035ff9ef1ddc9cefc5.jpg
2. Some video OSD media info display incorrect in chinese.
http://bbs.htpc1.com/attachments/forumid_171/09070710033cff4407856ffdfe.jpg

Stacked files not showing flagging info really isn't my fault but it does work for me locally

As for Chinese You know your probably completely right Smile I was a completely selfish bastard and only took into account english when I made the skin Smile After all like I said inthe first post I made it for my own private use then it went public. Sad All these uppercase fonts are really bad for pretty much anything but english Frown
The only think I can suggest if your going to have to replace the font files in the fonts dir to ones with chinese letters in them like Arial_Unicode. As long as you name them the same it should be ok since Chinese doesn't really care about case (does it ?)


- taxigps - 2009-07-07 07:54

Jezz_X Wrote:Stacked files not showing flagging info really isn't my fault but it does work for me locally

As for Chinese You know your probably completely right Smile I was a completely selfish bastard and only took into account english when I made the skin Smile After all like I said inthe first post I made it for my own private use then it went public. Sad All these uppercase fonts are really bad for pretty much anything but english Frown
The only think I can suggest if your going to have to replace the font files in the fonts dir to ones with chinese letters in them like Arial_Unicode. As long as you name them the same it should be ok since Chinese doesn't really care about case (does it ?)

I have modified the file "VideoOSDCommons.xml" to fix the bug of display incorrect chinese letters.

Change line 277 to:
Code:
            <label>$INFO[VideoPlayer.Season,$LOCALIZE[20373] : ,[CR]]$INFO[VideoPlayer.Episode,$LOCALIZE[20359] : ,[CR]]$INFO[VideoPlayer.Studio,$LOCALIZE[572] : ,[CR]]$INFO[VideoPlayer.Director,$LOCALIZE[20339] : ,[CR]]$INFO[VideoPlayer.Year,$LOCALIZE[345] : ,[CR]]$INFO[VideoPlayer.RatingAndVotes,$LOCALIZE[563] : ,[CR]]</label>

Change line 428 to:
Code:
            <label>$INFO[VideoPlayer.Plot]</label>

It's ok now:
[Image: 09070713410f80f650bac575a1.jpg]


- Jezz_X - 2009-07-07 08:10

so basically once the chinese hits the · character it dies ?

because the text at the bottom of the settings screen should do the same unless you translated it without ?


- taxigps - 2009-07-07 08:30

Jezz_X Wrote:so basically once the chinese hits the · character it dies ?

because the text at the bottom of the settings screen should do the same unless you translated it without ?

When I trans the string file into chinese, I find it display as ? not · character in my text editor. What's the codepage of your windows system?


- skunkm0nkee - 2009-07-07 09:05

jmarshall Wrote:XBMC running the original Mediastream was recently usability tested for a university project. The one thing that EVERYONE struggled with was they didn't know which of the 3 video items to click on the homepage to get to their videos.

I agree that having 3 video type options on the home screen may be confusing initially but there is logic behind it and once learned it's fairly easy to remember.

In that usability test, did they find it any easier to go into videos and then toggle between files and library modes? To me, that is where having only 1 link falls down as having a toggle on a (hidden) inner menu is not an ideal way to approach it either.

I guess there may be an argument for having 2 links on the home screen, one for Video Files and one for Video Library? (Personally I still prefer the 3 but that's because I've gotten used to it)


- Jezz_X - 2009-07-07 09:10

taxigps can you do me a favor and try replacing yours with this file.
http://blackbolt.x-scene.com/Jezz_X/VideoOSDCommons.xml (right click save as)

Basically on jmarshalls advice I re-saved the file as utf8 format and it seems to have fixed it for the 2 chinese fonts I downloaded off the web. I did try the original file first and got the same error but the new one seems to have fixed it (for me) and I'd like you to confirm because I really don't want to remove those chars if I don't have too

P.S. if you have a translated skins string.xml too upload it for me somewhere and I will add it to the skins next download as long as you tell me if its "Chinese (Simple)" or "Chinese (Traditional)"


- Broads - 2009-07-07 09:26

To carry on what skunk said, I can see it from both perspectives.

Having and endless stream of options on a home page takes an age to get to where you want, and repeats information.

Where this falls over is the usabilty factor for the uniniciated. WAGS and kids.

When the wife and kids use they can't get their heads around using the library option?! [Why]?

I personally have all movies and tv shows scanned to library, apart from the kids movies, These I have enabled via the videos option. This has a dual purpose as its easier for them to find, and I dont have to look through kids movies when looking to see what movie I want.


Then again, I did also like seeing the TV Fanart from the home menu. I have some nice wallpaper, of frekles from lost.. Big Grin

USIBILITY.... If Provided in the settings people can make their own choice, I think different scenarios will probably fit different people.


- taxigps - 2009-07-07 09:35

Jezz_X Wrote:taxigps can you do me a favor and try replacing yours with this file.
http://blackbolt.x-scene.com/Jezz_X/VideoOSDCommons.xml (right click save as)

Basically on jmarshalls advice I re-saved the file as utf8 format and it seems to have fixed it for the 2 chinese fonts I downloaded off the web. I did try the original file first and got the same error but the new one seems to have fixed it (for me) and I'd like you to confirm because I really don't want to remove those chars if I don't have too

P.S. if you have a translated skins string.xml too upload it for me somewhere and I will add it to the skins next download as long as you tell me if its "Chinese (Simple)" or "Chinese (Traditional)"
I have tested this utf8 file, It works well. Thanks!
I have translated the string.xml file to "Chinese (Simple)". Can I mail it to you?
BTW, what's the mean of "Aired", the <string id="31322">?


- Jezz_X - 2009-07-07 09:43

taxigps Wrote:I have tested this utf8 file, It works well. Thanks!
I have translated the string.xml file to "Chinese (Simple)". Can I mail it to you?
BTW, what's the mean of "Aired", the <string id="31322">?

Glad it worked I sent you a PM on the forum


- xexe - 2009-07-07 09:44

jmarshall Wrote:See the left menu for fanart.

Thanks for that, worked as intended.

To comment on the 3 item homepage (i.e. TV MOVIE VIDEO), I can say with absolute certainty that my family immediately found this intuitive and was THE main reason we moved to mediastream.

I am sure alot of this is personal preference but just for the record; with the single video entry on homepage I had had to explain how to find stuff to the family (and they still get lost); with the 3 entry homescreen I never had to explain anything they just knew intuitively how to use it. For me that says it all.