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3DTV Support - Play "3D" Movies in XBMC plus have GUI / OSD and subtitles just work? - Printable Version

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- poofyhairguy - 2010-12-29 20:23

Vultures Wrote:I actually don't need to automate anything because I have this little thingy http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-diNovo-Edge-Keyboard-Black/dp/B000J43HJ8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1293646527&sr=8-2
on my sofa all the time.

Yep, if I wasn't married I would do the same thing. As it is if I can't map something to a button on a Harmony remote it is basically useless to me.

Thanks for your response!


- Vultures - 2010-12-29 20:39

You can setup home automation system (e.g. crestron), and integrate it with TMT (and XBMC) via APIBig Grin
This way you'll have a button on the remote for everythingSmile


- enderlabs - 2010-12-30 11:22

Hi,

In the near features will XBMC offer 3D support ? Mainly for 3D Blu-Ray ISO ?


- MJFox - 2010-12-30 12:28

is it me or is TMT the slowest player ever?

when in 3D mode clicking on STOP takes a few seconds to acutally stop the movie, closing the player when in 3D mode takes forever, seeking in 3D mode is almost impossible (my HTPC is a Core 2 Duo E6600, so it's not the slowest machine in the world) etc.

does anybody know a decent player that can play 3D-ISOS? tried PowerDVD and WinOnDVD and they are even worse...

greetings

MJFox


- Yalla-One - 2010-12-30 20:27

Vultures Wrote:No. At the moment you'll need an external app for that. Namely new versions Power DVD (didn't work for me) or Total Media Theatre. The app however can be called from XBMC using Launcher plugins.

Have I understood it correct if the only reason for XBMC not being able to display for instance Avatar 3D perfectly in full 1080P best display-mode is lack of full 3D-support in FFMPEG? And the only reason for why PowerDVD and Total Media Theatre works is that they have 3D-support built-in where FFMPEG doesn't?

And if that was correct, then once FFMPEG is upgraded, a 3D-capable HTPC should be able to display a 3D Matroska container just as perfectly over HDMI 1.4 as a high-end BluRay player?

Or are there other factors present as well, such as a need for 3D-support in the XBMC codebase itself as well (ie for menus etc?) - if so - isn't that just looks, as the important part is the movie itself?

Thanks in advance for any replies with explainations!


- poofyhairguy - 2010-12-30 20:51

Yalla-One Wrote:Have I understood it correct if the only reason for XBMC not being able to display for instance Avatar 3D perfectly in full 1080P best display-mode is lack of full 3D-support in FFMPEG? And the only reason for why PowerDVD and Total Media Theatre works is that they have 3D-support built-in where FFMPEG doesn't?

Yes basically.

Quote:And if that was correct, then once FFMPEG is upgraded, a 3D-capable HTPC should be able to display a 3D Matroska container just as perfectly over HDMI 1.4 as a high-end BluRay player?

Hopefully.

Quote:Or are there other factors present as well, such as a need for 3D-support in the XBMC codebase itself as well (ie for menus etc?) - if so - isn't that just looks, as the important part is the movie itself?

The menu is more than cosmetic. Without 3D menu support there is no decent 3D subtitle support. I have found that out with Avatar rips myself.


- Vultures - 2010-12-30 21:48

MJFox Wrote:is it me or is TMT the slowest player ever?
(my HTPC is a Core 2 Duo E6600, so it's not the slowest machine in the world)
does anybody know a decent player that can play 3D-ISOS? tried PowerDVD and WinOnDVD and they are even worse...
MJFox

I think videocard matters much more than CPU. You need something relatively new to play MVC. Besides, file should be on the local drive. At least for 50 GB ISOs.


- Yalla-One - 2010-12-31 10:32

Thanks much!

poofyhairguy Wrote:The menu is more than cosmetic. Without 3D menu support there is no decent 3D subtitle support. I have found that out with Avatar rips myself.

Being very new here I might have searched the wrong places, but judging by these threads, 3D support in XBMC seems to be gaining quite a lot of interest lately, but I have not found a single place outside these informal threads to voice the need for such support. Is there anywhere the requests and wishes for 3D-support for menus/subtitles in XBMC can be voted for and perhaps one can even offer bounties?

And while this might not be the right place - is there a similar place for FFMPEG to wish/vote/"bribe" towards 3D-support there?

-y1


- MJFox - 2010-12-31 10:43

Vultures Wrote:I think videocard matters much more than CPU. You need something relatively new to play MVC. Besides, file should be on the local drive. At least for 50 GB ISOs.

videocard is a Zotac GeForce GT 430... but yes, the files are on a network share so maybe that's the problem

greetings

MJFox


- CrystalP - 2010-12-31 21:45

@poofyhairguy, I'm intrigued by the playback quality difference between the Samsung BluRay player and xbmc/boxee. Were you able by any chance to pin down how it happens?

They both start with the same file, so the difference is either in the decoding or in postprocessing. Or maybe it engages some special processing in the TV?

Does software playback vs accelerated make a difference? What about the different scalers with software decode? A difference visible in 3D is probably also visible when displaying side-by-side in 2D, anything of interest there?

There is no post-processing explicitely done by XBMC when hardware accel is active, but nvidia is known to insert some postprocessing anyway...