+- XBMC Community Forum (http://forum.xbmc.org)
+-- Forum: Help and Support (/forumdisplay.php?fid=33)
+--- Forum: XBMC General Help and Support (/forumdisplay.php?fid=111)
+--- Thread: XBMC gets dedicated remote - Motorola Nyxboard (/showthread.php?tid=80968)
- Teknologist - 2011-10-08 13:27
Bram77 Wrote:How can I make xbmc use the keymap.xml file? I've placed it in ~/.xbmc/userdata/keymaps/keymap.xml but it seems to be ignored. I'm using this mapping to try to get the colored- and the home button working correctly, without success so far....
I'm using the latest pre-eden build on ubuntu 11.04.
Code:
<keymap>
<global>
<keyboard name="Motorola Nyxboard Hybrid">
<f3 mod="shift">ContextMenu</f3> <!-- RED Context menu -->
<f4 mod="shift">FullScreen</f4> <!-- GREEN Display menu overlay -->
<f5 mod="shift">ShowSubtitles</f5> <!-- YELLOW Subtitles -->
<f6 mod="shift">AudioNextLanguage</f6> <!-- BLUE Switch audio track -->
<home>XBMC.ActivateWindow(Home)</home> <!-- MENU Jump to main menu -->
<d mod="ctrl">Info</d> <!-- INFO Info -->
<f3>Pause</f3> <!-- EPG Pause -->
<f4>Stop</f4> <!-- USER Stop -->
</keyboard>
</global>
</keymap>
Got exactly same problem here...let me know if you fix it please...
Debug log shows key press is OK but binds it to mapping in default keymap.xml (IE HOME->FirstPage instead of Home->XBMCActivate Home)
weird...I even have tried as a last resort to replace the default /usr/share/xbmc/system/keymaps/keymap.xml with the nyxboard.keymap to see and it still triggers "FirstPage" action...
very weird.
I am running Ubuntu 10.10 and latest pre-Eden SVN build....(as of today)
BTW, I don't understand how a remote specially made for XBMC would not have a MENU button to trigger context menu...so weird...even my Harmony one has it...
- Bram77 - 2011-10-08 13:50
Seconden that.... I'm a little disapointed.
Solved - Teknologist - 2011-10-08 15:00
Teknologist Wrote:Got exactly same problem here...let me know if you fix it please...
Debug log shows key press is OK but binds it to mapping in default keymap.xml (IE HOME->FirstPage instead of Home->XBMCActivate Home)
weird...I even have tried as a last resort to replace the default /usr/share/xbmc/system/keymaps/keymap.xml with the nyxboard.keymap to see and it still triggers "FirstPage" action...
very weird.
I am running Ubuntu 10.10 and latest pre-Eden SVN build....(as of today)
BTW, I don't understand how a remote specially made for XBMC would not have a MENU button to trigger context menu...so weird...even my Harmony one has it...
Okay. I found the reason and a workaround...
1) The reason:
The keymap.nyxboard.xml (add any user data keymap.xml posted here) refers to a remote name="Motorola Nyxboard hybrid"
If I do a cat /proc/input/devices on my Ubuntu box I have this output regarding Nyxboard:
Code:
I: Bus=0003 Vendor=22b8 Product=003b Version=0111
N: Name="Motorola Motorola NYXboard, 2.4GHz device"
P: Phys=usb-0000:00:1d.7-5.6/input0
S: Sysfs=/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb2/2-5/2-5.6/2-5.6:1.0/input/input20
U: Uniq=??????????
H: Handlers=sysrq kbd event6
B: EV=120013
B: KEY=e080ffdf01cfffff fffffffffffffffe
B: MSC=10
B: LED=1f
I: Bus=0003 Vendor=22b8 Product=003b Version=0111
N: Name="Motorola Motorola NYXboard, 2.4GHz device"
P: Phys=usb-0000:00:1d.7-5.6/input1
S: Sysfs=/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb2/2-5/2-5.6/2-5.6:1.1/input/input21
U: Uniq=??????????
H: Handlers=kbd mouse1 event7
B: EV=17
B: KEY=1f0000 0 838c0000000 c000000000000 0
B: REL=143
B: MSC=10
I: Bus=0003 Vendor=22b8 Product=003b Version=0111
N: Name="Motorola Motorola NYXboard, 2.4GHz device"
P: Phys=usb-0000:00:1d.7-5.6/input2
S: Sysfs=/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb2/2-5/2-5.6/2-5.6:1.2/input/input22
U: Uniq=??????????
H: Handlers=sysrq kbd event8
B: EV=100013
B: KEY=c0000 40000000000 0 50000 11781801d000 e09effdf01cfffff fffffffffffffffe
B: MSC=10Notice the name of the remote is Name="Motorola Motorola NYXboard, 2.4GHz device" which doesn't correspond to the name in the keycaps .xml files...
I am pretty sure the problem comes from this. Therefore XBMC uses the default keymap.xml and doesn't process the nyxboard.xml...
2) The workaround:
I use a default keymap.xml file in user data and remove any name="Motorola Nyxboard hybrid" from it.
As a result I have this:
Code:
<keymap>
<global>
<keyboard >
<f3 mod="shift">ContextMenu</f3> <!-- RED Context menu -->
<f4 mod="shift">FullScreen</f4> <!-- GREEN Display menu overlay -->
<f5 mod="shift">ShowSubtitles</f5> <!-- YELLOW Subtitles -->
<f6 mod="shift">AudioNextLanguage</f6> <!-- BLUE Switch audio track -->
<home>XBMC.ActivateWindow(Home)</home> <!-- MENU Jump to main menu -->
<d mod="ctrl">Info</d> <!-- INFO Info -->
<f3>ContextMenu</f3> <!-- EPG Pause -->
<f4>ContextMenu</f4> <!-- USER Stop -->
</keyboard>
</global>
</keymap>And it works perfectly.
Than, to get the full bundled mapping working, I copied the bundled keymap.nyxboard.xml to my user data keymaps dir, added the customs buttons from above and remove any name="Motorola Nyxboard hybrid" from it.
DONE! It works like a charm!
Hope this will be either fixed in future pre-eden builds or name of device canned to the right one in a further firmware update for the remote.
Also hope this helps any other frustrated users out there...
Makes me wonder about the "Out of the box" mention on the pulse-eight page...
- Bram77 - 2011-10-08 16:36
Works like a charm! Thanks a lot!
- outleradam - 2011-10-09 07:03
After using this for a bit, I'd like to speak about ergonomics...
I think most people hold the remote in their right hand. In order to use the keyboard, it takes at least 3 steps. You must flip it over, rotate it 180 degrees and then grab it with the other hand. If the keyboard were rotated 180 degrees, then it would be appropriate. Currently, this is a left-handed remote.
Now, for use....
I'd like to have a shortcut to "full-screen" ie the TAB button on the top of the remote. This allows for easy switching between menus and the currently playing show.
- mat____ - 2011-10-09 11:16
outleradam Wrote:...You must flip it over, rotate it 180 degrees and then grab it with the other hand. If the keyboard were rotated 180 degrees, then it would be appropriate. Currently, this is a left-handed remote.I agree, but I'd not noticed this myself but I just tried and I agree; however it can be done in a fluid motion if you twist the remote differently by holding it in the right hand and pushing with the thumb to turn it right to left rather than with the fingers to turn it left to right. You'll still end up pressing the keys with the left hand but it's a start.
The trick seems to be to just use it in your left hand, good practice for increased dexterity
outleradam Wrote:I'd like to have a shortcut to "full-screen" ie the TAB button on the top of the remote. This allows for easy switching between menus and the currently playing show.from earlier post #364
<f4 mod="shift">FullScreen</f4>
- Bram77 - 2011-10-09 14:15
Now it's functioning properly I'm quite positive about the remote. I think it's one of the best I've used so far. There are two annoying facts though. Sometimes a single push on a button is executed several times. And the left arrow on the navigation ring doesn't respond when you feel the click. It needs to be pushed firmly to get a response. This gets quite frustrating after a while, especially because the remote gives you the feeling your machine and/or XBMC installation has become faster because of the rapid input response. The responsiveness is a very big plus. Only my old Xbox with the original remote was this responsive.
Still, I'm thinking of asking for a replacement because of the very annoying left navigation button responding 1 out of 3 klicks. This must be a production error.
edit: Oh, and the range very limited. About 3 meters. But this is a known problem as I've read.
- Jackdaw - 2011-10-09 16:20
I'm using this with a Shuttle XS35GT.
I cannot enter the BIOS with it or choose an OS in Grub. Has anyone been able to do this. I could do this with my cheapo Ebay remote.
It only works with an OS - I thought it would be driverless.
Also I can't work out how to do left and right mouse clicks. Without this it's useless.
- mat____ - 2011-10-09 17:45
Jackdaw Wrote:...
Also I can't work out how to do left and right mouse clicks. Without this it's useless.
Useless is a little harsh, fairer to say that without that it does not do what you want it to, not that it's without use; but I digress, right and left mouse clicks are supported. Look for the button labelled "click" it's on the keyboard side. Press it to get a left click, hold Fn and press it to get a right click.
I'm pretty sure thats covered in the instructions.
- Kevo - 2011-10-09 18:29
outleradam Wrote:After using this for a bit, I'd like to speak about ergonomics...
I think most people hold the remote in their right hand. In order to use the keyboard, it takes at least 3 steps. You must flip it over, rotate it 180 degrees and then grab it with the other hand. If the keyboard were rotated 180 degrees, then it would be appropriate. Currently, this is a left-handed remote.
I really don't see this at all. The remote is in my right hand I twist/rotate it with one hand and my thumb is right on the direction pad..... But a twist/rotate in the other direction an the remote would work just as well with the keyboard the other way.
Quote:Now, for use....
I'd like to have a shortcut to "full-screen" ie the TAB button on the top of the remote. This allows for easy switching between menus and the currently playing show.
I have home set to ToggleFullScreen. I think a dedicated fullscreen toggle button would have been a bad move, it's one that should be reserved for customising. The only button missing that should probably be dedicated is one for the context menu, the rest are quite rightly down to personal preference and customisation.