[WIP] The Paper Street Soap Company (mockups and development of a new skin concept) - Printable Version
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- blacklist - 2011-01-21 03:08
Hitcher Wrote:She's, umm, grown up a bit since Buffy.
Indeed. What can I say? Looking at scraps of paper has to be made interesting somehow. :zp
- ZexisStryfe - 2011-01-21 21:03
Hitcher Wrote:She's, umm, grown up a bit since Buffy.
Watch Eurotrip... she's grown up a lot...
- blacklist - 2011-01-22 00:28
ZexisStryfe Wrote:Watch Eurotrip... she's grown up a lot...
And that movie is 7 years old.
- Uuaww - 2011-01-22 14:36
I'm liking this a lot, good work.
- blacklist - 2011-01-22 22:35
So... I'm thinking about this newsfeed thing and wondering how to take it? So far the feeds I have planned are:
1. Movie News - movie home (user defined; some default)
2. TV News - tv home (user defined; some default)
3. Actor News - custom feed by name in google aggregator + potential user defined (here I'm thinking something like adding a feed from one of celebrity photo sites - but would have to be defined per actor... in the nfo?)
4. Music News - music home (user defined[punknews.org]; some default [mtv news?])
5. Artist News - custom feed by artist name in google aggregator?
6. Photos - what could we provide here? I'm thinking a feed like at deviantart.com - need to see if sites like picasa or flickr provide user feeds of latest added images? I'm pretty sure they do, might be a nice addition)
7. Programs - Dunno.
8. Settings - I'm thinking here to provide the XBMC news feed?
While I'm thinking about this... I'd like to somehow add some twitter integration. Particularly for actors (lots of twitters) and music artists (again lots). What is standing in my way is somehow to define their feeds. I'm guessing we need to add as a line in the nfo potentially? And of course, I need a script like the rss feed script to integrate them with the skin. Thoughts?
I guess I'm wodering how much interest there is in all of this? I think the current functionality on the movies and television page is awesome, and wondering how far I should go in adding it throughout the skin.
- MarkTaunton - 2011-01-23 00:58
As said before as you seem to be asking a question. You are a true artist but sometimes too little is enough, rather than too much.
All of your fantastic ideas hold back the full creation of this skin. There has to be a let go point, or a point where you create and release, then create further updates in the future.
I know that Xpirence took about a year to develop, but how long will this baby take to delevop?
Team Blackbolt had a full team delevoping, and yet there seems to be 3 people working on this skin.
The more ideas you come up with, the more development time needed and the less and less work will eventually be done.
If you push the skin and the coders too far, I can possibly see this going on the back burner due to the coders having lifes to lead.
I really think that for the better part of common sense, there has to be a cut off point for what is included in this skin, otherwise you will always see one more thing to add, then another and another, and the skin will never be released.
I hate being honest about over development, and trying to dampen your creavity process, but unless the finishing line is drawn, then this race could go on and on forever.
- blacklist - 2011-01-23 03:00
MarkTaunton Wrote:As said before as you seem to be asking a question. You are a true artist but sometimes too little is enough, rather than too much.
I appreciate you trying to be honest with your feelings about this skin. Yes, there are only a handful of people working on this skin, and yes it is going to take a while to develop. Blackbolt has a group of skinners, but as far as I can tell they tend to work in pairs on skins.
That being said, I think you have a very wrong impression about what I am asking. The RSS backend fuctionality already exisits. I can place it anywhere in the skin with the same effect. I was just curious if anyone had any additional ideas about where it could be used to greatest benefit. Maybe someone has some ideas where it could be used that I haven't thought of?
Ronie is plugging away on the code and the movie section and a lot of the tv section are close to complete. A lot of the technical hurdles have already been jumped, and development is chugging along. We're realistically just a couple of months into development, a chunk of that taken with the holidays and not a lot of action.
This is the second time you've tried to put the brakes on the creativity of the skin, and while I understand where you are coming from, I think its way too premature to be speculating that the development has gone on too long.
Besides, I've got to keep things interesting for ronie! I wouldn't want him to get bored with the same old skin stuff At then end of the day, I think we have all kind of agreed that to make this skin the right way, we are going to stretch the idea of what people think about a XBMC skin. I want this skin to be an experience. To be immersive. The only way that's going to happen is to push the limits of what we currently think about skins.
- MarkTaunton - 2011-01-23 07:53
You are the Master I am but a humble servant. I have to agree with you on how XBMC needs to be pushed especially on the skinning side too many skins are just based around one skin and hardly any originatly.
I may try putting my idea for a skin out there for a skin one day and see what happens.
- dunpealhunter - 2011-01-23 08:13
I can't wait for your skin to be complete, its gonna be awesome. One question though, what happens if i don't have access to the internet? Are those pages with rss feed gonna disappear or are they just gonna be empty windows with nothing in them? And what about all the other stuff that requires the internet?
- blacklist - 2011-01-23 08:22
dunpealhunter Wrote:I can't wait for your skin to be complete, its gonna be awesome. One question though, what happens if i don't have access to the internet? Are those pages with rss feed gonna disappear or are they just gonna be empty windows with nothing in them? And what about all the other stuff that requires the internet?
Um. Ugly empty windows. Better stick with internet access.