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Backing up & shrinking Bluerays - wiggy - 2011-01-11 14:26
Hi Guys,
I would like to know how you guys are ripping and compressing bluerays for your NAS towers, as 30gig+ is a very large amount of space for one film?
Also what size you expect to be able to shrink a BR down to?
So far I have found the following combination to work for some people but I don't want to buy the software if no good or a free alternative is available.
- make Mkv + Handbreak
- dvdFab
I currently have the following set up
Storage
uNRaid NAS tower storing about 250+ dvd rips to .iso's all about 4-6gig (didnt wat to loose any quality)
Player
ACER Aspire 3610 with xbmc live 10.
Really hope someone can help?
- BORIStheBLADE - 2011-01-11 15:19
Did you see this thread in the off topic forum?
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=84614
- >>X<< - 2011-01-11 15:35
He wants to encode them to a smaller size completely different to that thread
wiggy
Don't think you can go wrong with you choice btw those are all free software dvdfab have a free version
http://www.dvdfab.com/hd-decrypter.htm
- ubuntuf4n - 2011-01-11 15:59
Without loosing the quality (e.g. removing 2nd audio etc.)--> MakeMKV
With a decent quality, but reencode --> Handbrake (choose high-profile in mkv-container).
Should be enough for most purposes.
You may also check this thread.. http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=84614
- thethirdnut - 2011-01-11 16:24
What I use:
a) rip full BR using AnyDVD-HD [yes, I know this is the non-free route]
b) demux the audio track [DTS-MA, Dolby TrueHD or LPCM] and subtitle PGS from the source *.m2ts file with TSMuxer
c) transcode video portion *only* to H264 *.mkv using CQ 19 via Handbrake
d) convert the PGS subtitle to *.idx format using BDSup2Sub
e) remux the transcoded video *.mkv, subtitle *.idx and audio track back into final *.mkv using MKVMerge
This will give you a very high-quality picture, subtitles and original audio used on the BR.
PS: If movie split into several smaller *.m2ts files analyze the disc with BDInfo to find which *.pls paylist file contains the movie you want. Mux this movie together with TSMuxer and then go back to point b)
- >>X<< - 2011-01-11 16:38
Seems a bit long winded to me and why convert subs when XBMC supports PGS now
- thethirdnut - 2011-01-11 16:53
>>X<< Wrote:Seems a bit long winded to me and why convert subs when XBMC supports PGS now
I have another non-XBMC media player that requires this for compatibility + its only a 30-second operation to run BDSup2Sub.
Also, this isn't plug-and-play; you're correct.
However, if you want to reduce file size to approx 25-40% of the original [typical, depends on movie] -AND- keep original audio it works very well.
You'll also end up with mkv's that should play on a very wide range of devices now and in the future.
- BORIStheBLADE - 2011-01-11 19:38
>>X<< Wrote:He wants to encode them to a smaller size completely different to that thread
wiggy
Don't think you can go wrong with you choice btw those are all free software dvdfab have a free version
http://www.dvdfab.com/hd-decrypter.htm
The thread has info just not a lot.
- BLKMGK - 2011-01-11 22:45
thethirdnut Wrote:What I use:
a) rip full BR using AnyDVD-HD [yes, I know this is the non-free route]
b) demux the audio track [DTS-MA, Dolby TrueHD or LPCM] and subtitle PGS from the source *.m2ts file with TSMuxer
c) transcode video portion *only* to H264 *.mkv using CQ 19 via Handbrake
d) convert the PGS subtitle to *.idx format using BDSup2Sub
e) remux the transcoded video *.mkv, subtitle *.idx and audio track back into final *.mkv using MKVMerge
This will give you a very high-quality picture, subtitles and original audio used on the BR.
PS: If movie split into several smaller *.m2ts files analyze the disc with BDInfo to find which *.pls paylist file contains the movie you want. Mux this movie together with TSMuxer and then go back to point b)
I do something similar. I use AnyDVD-HD to decrypt on Win64. This runs under every other tool. Next I use eac3to to examine the media and decide which stream I want. I use the GUI tool found in meGUI to do this but commandline works too. I rip the video stream, chapter stream, audio stream, and subs I desire. The video is in a Matroska container, the audio I usually pull as AC3 but you can do DTS or DTSHD as well. Subs end up in a format that I've not ever been able to mux properly so I use BDSup2Sub as well to create IDX files.
Next up I create a graph file and AVS script. I then use meGUI as a front-end to x.264 to compress the video. When done I use MKVMerge to put them all together. For subs I export just the FORCED subtitles. You may think you can ignore subtitles if you never use them but extract them and check the eac3to log to see if there are FORCED subs because you WILL want this at least - trust me!
Oh, expect this to take TIME. For good looking video expect hours and your CPU will weep. My C2D took as much as 20+hours for some movies and it ran about 4ghz. My current system is an i7 4core running 4.2GHZ and the difference in speed is stunning. I have tried GPU only encoding programs - they were actually slower and had worse quality than my x.264 compression.
Lastly, if commercial software is something you will consider checkout the MediaConverter7 package. I only mention this because it will use BOTH CPU and video card (CUDA in my case) to trans-code. It only does Base and MAIN profiles but you can tweak bitrate and a few other things - there's a free trial. It appears to have acceptable results in as little as 45mins on my computer although I'm still testing. Normally my computer takes about 3-5HOURS to compress a rip and I use very high bitrates and quality settings.
More later maybe when I'm home and have the computer in front of me if there are more questions...
- wiggy - 2011-01-12 00:33
Wow thanks guys for your response, one thing I have learned is that its not a simple (yet) at ripping a dvd!!
But will try the free dvdfav HD ripper then use handbreak to shrink, just a question on the forced sub titles, doesn't dvdfab or handbreak let you choose to keep them when ripping or shrinking?