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PLEX vs XBMC
#16
I thought about trying plex since they now got a windows version. Like the idea about the server.

But they have for some reason removed the rar-support, which have always been a killer feature of xbmc, imho. So screw plex Smile
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#17
The 'On Deck' feature is being/has been recreated using a script - there's a thread in the skin dev forum about it,


silvine Wrote:I've used both. XBMC begat Plex so they're quite similar and it really comes down to personal taste as well as what devices you use and own.


Plex has a couple of nice features such as 'on deck' which does a nice job of highlighting recently added media. The Plex media server is also great because it organises and downloads metadata about your media automatically and it makes organising media easy and painless. This media server also makes it very easy to run Plex and access your media on a range of devices from the iPad to a laptop to a smart TV. If you use multiple devices in the one home, Plex is worth taking a look at. Some users reckon Plex doesn't run great on a Windows machine as it can prove unreliable. This is probably because Plex for Windows is a relatively new offering. However, Plex runs and looks particularly good on any mac machine and I think it was originally designed with OSX in mind. That said, it looks to me like Plex is slowly moving towards a more monetised offering as evidenced by the Samsung TV partnership and the more pricey iOS app. I also have a feeling they're going to release a dedicated Plex box similar to the Apple TV. It's also worth mentioning that the Plex media server app for iOS runs without jailbreaking where as the XBMC app requires the user to jailbreak.

XBMC is way more customisable than Plex and sometimes it can seem a little more complicated, as evidenced by the requirement to jailbreak iOS devices. I think XBMC has more plugins and skins than Plex and the community surround XBMC seems to be much larger and much more willing to implement new features. That said some of these features or plugins require the user to have a basic understanding of how the OS works. This might not be an issue for most people here but it can be for girlfriends, kids etc. There's also a Plex plugin for XBMC which replicates the features of Plex called PleXBMC. XBMC also has a variety of alternates which people can install e.g. XBMC Live, Openelec. XBMC will as far as I know always be free and open-ended. In short, there'd be no Plex without XBMC and if you a like a HTPC you can tweak and personalise XBMC is worth a look.


Currently I use the openelec version of XBMC. Why? Because it boots within ten seconds into XBMC and it makes XBMC run exactly like a device such as a DVD player. This means I never have to mess around with the OS. As seamless as Plex worked with OSX it couldn't quite replicate this experience. The only real feature of Plex I miss is the media server as I find organising my media a pain. My favourite add on is the Sabnzbd suite which includes Couch Potato and Sickbeard. It automates the process of downloading movies and TV shows. However, I think there's a similar version for Plex.


You can install and run either app for free right now and decide which suits you best. Then there's Boxee, Windows Media Centre, Mediaportal...

Further reading here: http://www.tested.com/news/xbmc-vs-plex-...emacy/390/

(a year out of date though)
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#18
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I think this and the other two posts from this user is spam... but im not quite sure.

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#19
Plex support of subtitles, of all types, is pretty horrible. So if you like films/tv not in your native tongue, or are an Otaku, or deaf, your out of luck with Plex. They have promised a number of times to work on it, but never have and don't seem to care beyond giving the impression that they will, so that people might buy the mobile app on the hope that real support is coming.
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#20
lol I think the OP could use some re-education about "scouring the internet".

What did this involve? Did you open your computer case and look really good inside? Inside your router maybe?
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#21
silvine Wrote:I've used both. XBMC begat Plex so they're quite similar and it really comes down to personal taste as well as what devices you use and own.


Plex has a couple of nice features such as 'on deck' which does a nice job of highlighting recently added media. The Plex media server is also great because it organises and downloads metadata about your media automatically and it makes organising media easy and painless. This media server also makes it very easy to run Plex and access your media on a range of devices from the iPad to a laptop to a smart TV. If you use multiple devices in the one home, Plex is worth taking a look at. Some users reckon Plex doesn't run great on a Windows machine as it can prove unreliable. This is probably because Plex for Windows is a relatively new offering. However, Plex runs and looks particularly good on any mac machine and I think it was originally designed with OSX in mind. That said, it looks to me like Plex is slowly moving towards a more monetised offering as evidenced by the Samsung TV partnership and the more pricey iOS app. I also have a feeling they're going to release a dedicated Plex box similar to the Apple TV. It's also worth mentioning that the Plex media server app for iOS runs without jailbreaking where as the XBMC app requires the user to jailbreak.

XBMC is way more customisable than Plex and sometimes it can seem a little more complicated, as evidenced by the requirement to jailbreak iOS devices. I think XBMC has more plugins and skins than Plex and the community surround XBMC seems to be much larger and much more willing to implement new features. That said some of these features or plugins require the user to have a basic understanding of how the OS works. This might not be an issue for most people here but it can be for girlfriends, kids etc. There's also a Plex plugin for XBMC which replicates the features of Plex called PleXBMC. XBMC also has a variety of alternates which people can install e.g. XBMC Live, Openelec. XBMC will as far as I know always be free and open-ended. In short, there'd be no Plex without XBMC and if you a like a HTPC you can tweak and personalise XBMC is worth a look.


Currently I use the openelec version of XBMC. Why? Because it boots within ten seconds into XBMC and it makes XBMC run exactly like a device such as a DVD player. This means I never have to mess around with the OS. As seamless as Plex worked with OSX it couldn't quite replicate this experience. The only real feature of Plex I miss is the media server as I find organising my media a pain. My favourite add on is the Sabnzbd suite which includes Couch Potato and Sickbeard. It automates the process of downloading movies and TV shows. However, I think there's a similar version for Plex.


You can install and run either app for free right now and decide which suits you best. Then there's Boxee, Windows Media Centre, Mediaportal...

Further reading here: http://www.tested.com/news/xbmc-vs-plex-...emacy/390/

(a year out of date though)

I agree with Silvine. I've installed and using both but predominantly XBMC.

Why? XBMC is more feature rich, there are more skins in existence and development and more addons that are relevant for myself eg Australian catch up TV services.

I'm running Plex on Mac and Win7 as well as the PlexBMC addon and haven't had any problems with performance. I do like the Plex concept of running a separate media server and client as it provides easier administration if wanting to share libraries across multiple devices within your home instead of running separate instances of XBMC which will always need to be installed separately, scraped separately and installed separately. I also like how PMS automatically filter your media collection into useful groups like "Recently Added" Recently Released" which are more extensive than the default settings within XBMC.

With PMS you can also filter out your library when first scraping when you add content so there is no need to create smart playlists eg. Location of all my kids movies were added separately to the PMS and titled Boys Movies so when scraped they appear separately on the main home menu to the main movie collection. This is different to XBMC where you scrape your entire collection and then create a smart playlist to perform the same filter and create a separate menu item for that same playlist, unless you use login profiles in XBMC all movies scraped will appear in the main movie collection.

"Collections" are similar to the movie sets addon in XBMC where you can dynamically create collections and add or remove titles. However there is no weather included in PMS now and limited support for subtitles.

I also like how in Mac OS you can install Preen manager to manage skins. My favourite skin in Plex is Blur and Retroplex.

However despite these positives, I open and use XBMC 90% of the time to watch my content.

Also the client versions for LG and Samsung TV's don't look anything like the computer versions so if you like the aesthetic of Plex you'll be disappointed with these.
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#22
Plex is software that you use if you want a centralized library shared amongst various clients, including mobile, desktop, Roku,. ATV2, Google TV, etc. All your content will show up just by logging into myPlex. Plex does have a desktop client that works great, but it doesn't have all the new high-tech features of XBMC, such as scripts. For people that care about the media server, and serving up content, everywhere and anywhere, Plex is the solution. If you care about one centralized library, and emphasize the desktop client, than XBMC is the solution. Hope that helps!
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#23
Plex TRANSCODES.....yuck
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#24
Interesting notes from last August.. wonder how that stacks up with Eden.

http://xbmc.tumblr.com/post/8890700647/p...ifferences

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#25
(2012-05-12, 21:00)onizuka Wrote: Plex TRANSCODES.....yuck

This is in fact the only reason I use plex. I have my linux machine running all the time so it makes it easy to access all my media off my server when I am away.

My home HTPC uses XBMC and I wouldn't have it any other way. Big Grin
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#26
well I use both xbmc and plex. I use xbmc as my main home theater and then on both my atv2. xbmc in my opionion looks way better.

What I do like about plex is that I can view my content away from my network and that all my clients are synced. It works pretty decently aswell. Another thing I do like about plex is the shared library. I currently have my library shared with my father and brother which both of them do not do alot of downloading or tweaking to their home theaters. So for them they use plex which is a bit easier for them to use and then the are able to get my library of 700+ movies and 1300 tv episodes etc..

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#27
I've used XBMC since around 2004 when I chipped an Xbox specifically for XBMC. So make no mistake when I say that I love XBMC and think its some of the best software out there. However, it only fills one purpose these days, as a single media centre. If my HTPC has all the media and there are no other TVs in the house, then this is ideal and is how I had my setup until last year which is when, as the owner of my own multi bedroom home, I decided to stick televisions everywhere.

As such, the current approach proved fairly quick to be the wrong approach. I had to setup multiple devices at length, constantly setup settings and scan libraries and locations etc.

So I gave Plex a shot.

What I have now, is a central library with Plex. When new stuff is added on a daily basis, Plex Media Server sees this and auto updates. I come home, fire up a plex client (roku, AppleTV or HTPC) and go to recently aired or recently added and the new stuff is there. I then, half way through an video, stop it and start it back up again in a different room. It's all so simple. If a client isn't powerful enough to play the video natively, then PMS transcodes the file. Its a server, and if I don't have device with a plex solution available but it has DLNA, that's great too because the server presents itself as a DLNA server too.

I don't use the desktop plex client much but it's not too bad, no where near as good as XBMC though.

So what I'm getting at is that Plex comes in two parts, Server and Client(s).

If XBMC could natively read a Plex server, I'd be in heaven. The best of both worlds in the awesome Plex Media Server backend, and the superb XBMC frontend (especially good through a native solution like OpenELEC, and a small client box like a Zbox Nano or some such).

Or if XBMC ever got its own server app of some such as feature rich and capable as Plex, I'd be back in a shot. Especially if it had tv functionality built in too. My server could have a tv tuner and stream that too to relevant XBMC clients.

Once upon a time, we only had one XBMC device. Now we have the option and opertunity to have multiple devices but XBMC is still atm focused on the one device model. I'd love it to change and hopefully it will. (Please note I understand XBMC can be massaged into syncing with other devices, but this takes much effort and hacking).

Please understand I am not knocking XBMC or recommending against it. I'm just saying that for my needs, I prefer the one server many clients model of Plex.

Thank you XBMC debs for all your work.
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#28
XBMC needs a server/client setup, it is painfully obvious.

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#29
Quote:If XBMC could natively read a Plex server, I'd be in heaven.
http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Add-on:PleXBMC

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#30
(2012-05-21, 00:15)vinistois Wrote: XBMC needs a server/client setup, it is painfully obvious.

so true. Big Grin

there is an addon in development for datasync. check it out. Datasync addon
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