AMD Fusion based hardware for a HTPC?

poofyhairguy · 2011-02-17 21:44

I expect it to work in full 1080p in Windows 7.

poofyhairguy · 2011-02-17 21:46

nemek Wrote:Yes it is. Its this one: http://trac.xbmc.org/ticket/10928 & also vaapi is disabled by default (only way to enable it is recompile xbmc). Ofc we can't blame devs since its open source project - they work on what they like to and everyone should respect it.

But VAAPI is disabled for a reason. Its not anti-AMD bias.

Heck XBMC also disables VDPAU-based divx upscaling. As you said we are all big NVidia fanboys, yet this feature is blocked despite being available for more than a year. Why? Because its buggy, and the XBMC devs don't want to be held responsible for Third Party buggy code. Just like with VAAPI.

If VAAPI was as rock solid as normal VDPAU, it wouldn't be disabled. That is the fault of the drivers, which is the fault of AMD/Intel.

nemek · 2011-02-17 22:06

Quote:But VAAPI is disabled for a reason. Its not anti-AMD bias.

I may be wrong but from what i read somewhere here it was disabled accidentally without intention.

About bugged drivers - mplayer with vaapi works fine. Don't get me wrong. My intention is only to make ppl knows the truth that is: nvidia works out of box on linux, amd / intel not yet cuz of bug in xbmc that i believe should/will be fixed soon.

spudbynight · 2011-03-13 16:44

poofyhairguy Wrote:I expect it to work in full 1080p in Windows 7.

The isues are only with Linux?

HansP · 2011-03-13 16:53

sb206 Wrote:I'm very interessted in this board : ASUS E35M1-M Pro inkl. AMD Fusion E-350.
Does anybody know, if its work with xbmc and full HD under windows 7 ? Ore there are problems at the moment ?

i can play 1080P without any problem , the only thing if u fastforward it needs a few secs to buffer again but thats normal i guess
besides that it plays perfect on a MSI E350IA-E35

wicky · 2011-03-13 18:08

You can read some of my findings here with xbmc, win 7, and the fusion platform. But as HansP points out, 1080p is flawless

Krautmaster · 2011-03-17 13:01

well, i use an core i3 530 together with Ubuntu Minimal + XBMC and it works like a charm so far, VAAPI is working since December nearly bugless.
And in Addition... the i3 530 produces better results than my Geforce 9300 on the ITX zotac board haha. The upscaling works very good, same to the deinterlacing modes without vaapi.

Well, with the GF9300, VDPAU works in 5 minutes yes, but i had the problem that the border flickers in deinterlacing modes when VDPAU was enabled. If not, there were the same modes like on my Intel system now.

Intel + VAAPI was useless before December. I got it running but there was a lot of work to do because the 1080p material doens't play fluently with VAAPI on. Good luck the system is able to play 1080p without acceleration, CPU got enough power for that.

My only problem is the support of accelerate interlaced material. It stocks and doesnt play fluently.

I want to try to test Zacate E-350 on exactly the same "ground", Ubuntu 10.10. x64 minimal, DVB-S2 digital sat TV in HD, XBMC-Live, Lirc and IMON Display and remote from my OrigenAE ITX case.

by the way... the Intel System with i3 530 + MSI H55 Board draws sub 20W of power idle, per default on pico psu, with some settings down to <15W in Windows. Sadly, the ITX Gigabyte board i use causes an increase - i dont know exactly right now.

Anybody there who already got Linux+XBMC + VAAPI + Zacate (E-350) working?
I want to try out a new system to build the perfect HTPC, create an image to install it. My hope on Fusion is better VA Deinterlacing and an advantage in load power consumption - and cheaper...

Robotica · 2011-03-17 13:31

Krautmaster Wrote:Anybody there who already got Linux+XBMC + VAAPI + Zacate (E-350) working?
I want to try out a new system to build the perfect HTPC, create an image to install it. My hope on Fusion is better VA Deinterlacing and an advantage in load power consumption - and cheaper...

It is working on Linux.

See: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=96527
(post 13). H264 runs perfect with ~15% CPU usage on both cores (high Bitrate mkv). This topic and this topic give some install instructions.
Btw, Win7 is working like a charm with those E350 boards.

nemek · 2011-03-17 14:47

If some one is interested below is my custom xbmc-live ubuntu 10.10 x64 build (done using xbmc-live sdk). Its contains patched xbmc 10 compiled with vaapi enabled and all needed libs (ie libva, xvba-video etc) + latest catalyst 11.3 + mplayer-vaapi (for testing). Its confirmed to work with almost all hd movies (HP@L4.1 / AP@L3 max - xvba limitation) on ati cards (probably uvd2 is required - ie hd 4xxx)
xbmc-10.0-live-amd.part1.rar
xbmc-10.0-live-amd.part2.rar
xbmc-10.0-live-amd.part3.rar
xbmc-10.0-live-amd.part4.rar

HansP · 2011-03-17 21:04

yes , i use the version of nemek also and it's perfect !

poofyhairguy Resident Hardware Guru Posts: 2,954 Joined: Apr 2010 Reputation: 49	2011-02-17 21:44 Post: #101 I expect it to work in full 1080p in Windows 7. Mini/Micro ITX Frontend (with SSD) + Mediaserver/NAS + Logitech Harmony + LCD/LED/Plasma TV + Nice AV Receiver + XBMC + USENET + sabnzbd + sickbeard +couchpotato My Setup--HTPC Building Guide- Start Here--Advice on Hard Drives and SSDs--Mediaserver Guide--Harmony Guide
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spudbynight Junior Member Posts: 33 Joined: Jan 2009 Reputation: 0	2011-03-13 16:44 Post: #104 poofyhairguy Wrote:I expect it to work in full 1080p in Windows 7. The isues are only with Linux?
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wicky Donor Posts: 108 Joined: Sep 2010 Reputation: 0 Location: Austin, Tx	2011-03-13 18:08 Post: #106 You can read some of my findings here with xbmc, win 7, and the fusion platform. But as HansP points out, 1080p is flawless
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HansP Senior Member Posts: 285 Joined: Mar 2011 Reputation: 0 Location: Belgium	2011-03-17 21:04 Post: #110 yes , i use the version of nemek also and it's perfect !
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