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2005-03-09, 20:41
(This post was last modified: 2013-04-24, 11:03 by da-anda.)
xbmc is not really thought to browse classical music imho.
currently, unless i missed something, the composer tag is ignored. and i think it is quite more sensible to look under ludwig van beethoven (composer) instead of paul kletzki (orchestra director) when looking for the heroic symphony. tagging incorrectly all my music is not an option.
still, of course, i want to be able to browse works either by kletzki and by beethoven.
so ideally, though, what i would really love to see is intelligent listing, where browsing by artist would list both artists and composers, and so being able to reach a work either through the artist performing it or through its composer, in the same screen, and without having to change view mode. (how i would make a difference then of different "heroic symphonies" under beethoven, performed each by a different artist, i do not know…). this is so, because pretty much all non-classical music i have has blank composer tags, so adding a "browse by composer" view mode would not be quite practical imho.
anyhow, thanks for the dreambox.
ps: posted it at sourceforge too, btw.
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As mentioned above, this improvement would be really great for anyone wanting to listen to classical music.
Currently working with artists and albums just isn't effective when you can have one composers work recorded by many different artists (orchestras) and you can have dozens of albums with the same name (e.g. Symphony #1).
As JMarshall mentioned, the iPod does this really well. I always have Composers in my root menu. Start here, choose, say, Mozart, then, for example, Symphony #41, then track 1.
I have to admit I am a total newb and not in any position to edit source code and re-compile so am relying on a sympathetic developer with a taste for classical music! Any chance I might be in luck?
Thanks in advance.
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Wow, way to revive a very old request!
For clarification, what whould be the navigation scheme? Composer -> Title -> All tracks by any orchestra (artist) with matching title?
In your example, choosing Symphony #41 should produce such a listing, correct? (Albums don't really make much sense.)
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Symphony #41 I presume is the "album" in this case.
Perhaps listing how most classical music is tagged might allow kraqh3d and I (and anyone else interested) to come up with the easiest way to get it done.
Not saying it will be done ofcourse, but I'm more than happy to layout the how it could/should be done side of things.
Cheers,
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It's kind of a pseudo-album in the navigation scheme as its a collection of songs, but I don't think its an actual album tag. But please confirm this. The more detail, the better.
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Agreed - actual samples would be of most benefit.
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Is it to possible to activate composer and publisher to browse in the music library.
Most of the mp3s that I have ripped has these two categories filled in, I'm most interested in the composer category. I follow them just as much as the artists, like Timbaland who is known for composing music in many genres from rap, r&b, and pop, also being in a studio alot one is always curius who composed/produced this such and such song.
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wow. i remember this being discussed multiple times. sign me up but i can give no time commitments as yet. and i'll need some sample files to play with. (and please search the other threads, and link them here so we can keep track of everything. once we work out the organization, the rest is kind of easy.)
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2008-11-02, 17:55
(This post was last modified: 2008-11-02, 20:40 by MichaelRCH.)
Hi again
Very excited to see my post kicked up some activity! Sorry I did not respond sooner.
Re the browsing scheme, I think the iPod navigation scheme works nicely here.
Composer -> Albums (with option for all) -> Track Listing
This normally is how you would choose classical music in my experience. You are primarily interested in the composer then the piece (hmm, I think I need some Mozart to chill out, a Piano Concerto would be cool (album), lets start with the second movement (track) - that kind of thing).
Artist tends to be less relevant unless you have multiple recordings of the same piece, which is possible, but I think it important not to have to navigate by Artist, as certainly for myself, I can never remember who performed the music I am looking for, just who composed it. I think is distinct from from non-classical music, where you will probably know your artist first.
Re the samples, is there anything I can provide here to be of help?
Anyway, all input is really appreciated!
Many thanks again.
Michael
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Feel free to add a short sample (probably only the start of the track is needed) to the trac ticket - it's assigned to me.
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2008-11-03, 09:59
(This post was last modified: 2008-11-03, 10:18 by MichaelRCH.)
Many thanks jmarshall. I have attached 3 clips to the ticket. HTH. 2 composers between them. Let me know if any more would help.
Btw, I would also add that re the discussion about album names, I tend to find that working with the album as the actual CD you go the recording off is sometimes not the best way to later tag and navigate through your music, so the name of the piece is usually better (esp as classical pieces tend to have multiple movements or parts that come as individual tracks).
For example, I could buy an album that has 2 works by the same composer, each with 4 tracks, or indeed 2 works by different composers, each with 4 tracks, or pretty much anything! However, the album tag will have to say something like "Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto 1 and Sibelius Violin Concerto 2", which is annoying later.
So what I tend to do is always set the "album" tag to be the name of the specific work, not by the actual CD album that it came on. So in this example, tracks 1-4 get re-tagged "Violin Concerto 1" and tracks 5-8 get re-tagged "Violin Concerto 2". Because you are likely to be navigating by composer first, you don't need to see the composer in the album tag. Going by what Gracenote has on file for classical albums, there is no standard way of doing this (in fact there is a lot of terrible junk on there in this area!) but this system tends to work 99% of the time on the iPod for me and for others I know who listen to classical music.
HTH
