[MAC] New Thunderbolt Mac Mini!

ix400 Wrote:Sorry again, I really don't want to be rude. But to my opinion all problems related to playback should be on top of the priority list. This VDPAU deinterlacing-crashes are a pain, and the problem has not been addressed since more than a year now.

It's VDA, not VDPAU which only exists on linux platforms.

Sorry, but I do have to call bull on this, interlace detection for vda went in on c4a770b3 (Apr 27, "add max reference frame and interlace detection"), 0b440670 (Sep 8, was a recent change. "relax interlaced restriction for vda/vtb as we gets miss-detects from parsing the spc"), and about 5 mins ago, 219f8594 ("restore h264 interlace detection for vda"). Tomorrows nightly will have it.

davilla Wrote:It's VDA, not VDPAU which only exists on linux platforms.

Sorry, but I do have to call bull on this, interlace detection for vda went in on c4a770b3 (Apr 27, "add max reference frame and interlace detection"), 0b440670 (Sep 8, was a recent change. "relax interlaced restriction for vda/vtb as we gets miss-detects from parsing the spc"), and about 5 mins ago, 219f8594 ("restore h264 interlace detection for vda"). Tomorrows nightly will have it.

Thanks a lot. I will test it tomorrow.

Chris

opps, reverted vtb instead of vda by mistake. next cycle.

davilla Wrote:opps, reverted vtb instead of vda by mistake. next cycle.

Davilla, thank you very much. The new nightly just came out and it works great.

How can we get Apple to implement the "interlaced" support? And proper 23.976 support is also missing, but that's a different story.

I'm registered as an Apple Dev, let me know if I can help somehow (e.g. by posting something into the devs forums).

Thanks again,

Chris

ix400 Wrote:Davilla, thank you very much. The new nightly just came out and it works great.

How can we get Apple to implement the "interlaced" support? And proper 23.976 support is also missing, but that's a different story.

I'm registered as an Apple Dev, let me know if I can help somehow (e.g. by posting something into the devs forums).

Thanks again,

Chris

As mentioned, Davillas fix works. But apart from that I collected the following experiences so far with the combos Eden / Mini 2011 (AMD) / 10.7.2 Golden Master / Windows7

1. During playback, Eden OS X sometimes gets out of step. Playback starts to be choppy a bit then. Pressing the "left arrow" key (video jumps back 30s) helps to get back in track. 24p material seems to need the "adjust / sync refresh rate" settings, 50i material does not. So I have permanently switch them on and off, depending on the material I'm going to play.

2. Playback seems to be more silky when using Eden Win7.

3. Eden Win7 supports hardware acceleration for more video formats (e.g. interlaced).

4. XBMC Win7 will support the HD sound formats (Frodo nightlies). Apple probably won't support the HD formats within OS X.

5. Win7 allows automatic refresh rate switching.

As I said earlier, it's a pity, the XBMC / Win7 combo wins the battle.

Bootcamped my Mini now. At least it's Apple hardware I'm running Win7 on.

Chris

ix400 Wrote:As mentioned, Davillas fix works. But apart from that I collected the following experiences so far with the combos Eden / Mini 2011 (AMD) / 10.7.2 Golden Master / Windows7

1. During playback, Eden OS X sometimes gets out of step. Playback starts to be choppy a bit then. Pressing the "left arrow" key (video jumps back 30s) helps to get back in track. 24p material seems to need the "adjust / sync refresh rate" settings, 50i material does not. So I have permanently switch them on and off, depending on the material I'm going to play.

2. Playback seems to be more silky when using Eden Win7.

3. Eden Win7 supports hardware acceleration for more video formats (e.g. interlaced).

4. XBMC Win7 will support the HD sound formats (Frodo nightlies). Apple probably won't support the HD formats within OS X.

5. Win7 allows automatic refresh rate switching.

As I said earlier, it's a pity, the XBMC / Win7 combo wins the battle.

Bootcamped my Mini now. At least it's Apple hardware I'm running Win7 on.

Chris

i did the same thing, bootcamp windows 7, it just works so much better, unfortunately

prophetizer Wrote:i did the same thing, bootcamp windows 7, it just works so much better, unfortunately

This is all simply frustrating.

prophetizer Wrote:i did the same thing, bootcamp windows 7, it just works so much better, unfortunately

I too want to by a MacMini 2011, high or low spec doesnt really matter for me ... as long as it works.. and works good!

Even if I go for highend mac mini spec do I still have to run Win7 on it to make it run good?

And form Prophetizers and ix400s post win7 is the way to go... and Win7 works flawless on the MacMini? (not that importent for me cause I will only see XMBC anyhow =)

contentwhores Wrote:Any of the specs will be fine. The Intel HD3000 graphics are more than powerful enough to decode 1080p even with VC-1 encoding and of course would work fine with H.264 as well; the ATI card is better yet. Put is this way, I use a Mac Mini from 2 generations ago (it's a 2Ghz Core 2 Duo with NVidia graphics) and that plays anything I throw at it and the CPU usage stays in single digits with smooth playback.

What is more interesting to me is that both the Intel HD3K and the ATI 6630M both support bitstreaming of lossless audio (Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD) over HDMI. Only question is whether this is supported in OS X 10.7 Lion and/or Windows 7 with Bootcamp...

I was holding off buying a new HTPC until the Mac Minis came out - I was looking at a custom-build with an i3-2105 or i5-2405 in a DH67CF motherboard (which has Intel HD3k graphics) so given the specs of the new Mac Minis it may be that be a good choice! Just need to get my hands on one to try it out...

What kind of user would need the speck bump? I'm considering a Mac Mini for office stuff and Full Bluray/ISO Bluray playback. If you can do it with your Core 2 Duo, I guess the 599$ should be more than enough right?

thanks

wrekk Wrote:I too want to by a MacMini 2011, high or low spec doesnt really matter for me ... as long as it works.. and works good!

Even if I go for highend mac mini spec do I still have to run Win7 on it to make it run good?

And form Prophetizers and ix400s post win7 is the way to go... and Win7 works flawless on the MacMini? (not that importent for me cause I will only see XBMC anyhow =)

well, biggest problem for me was refresh rate change, as i get annoyed by the little frame glitch every 45 seconds or so without it. if u don't notice it, you don't need to run the windows version. also, only way i can play TrueHD and DTAMA