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what about copyright issues?
also are you going to make it open source or still have it locked so others cant change anything. there are a million different people that like little button here and there and pm is open source now.
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while i like pm3 i think it is a bit too 'hard core' to be a standard skin. the standard skin is the first thing new users (who dont know how to do anything) will see and so should be inviting and friendly. pm3 is kind of imposing imo... experienced users dont care about the standard skin since they will settle on a skin they like anyway.
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we are discussing the project mayhem = new default skin atm
i wont make the source public yet - some people in the team may disagree with a closed source default skin
so its not settled it will be the new default
yet it would make things a lot easier since im not so crazy about updating skins i never use anymore...
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good point - its better for the noobs
yet i dont want a scroller in pm3
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i like the way pm iii works also and the teaser was awsome.
but could you make a scroller like pm i with no graphics for the buttons and instead of wrapping have it move to settings. just make the button images part of the background. you might consider it a hack, but the image display bug wouldn't affect you then.
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my only real comment is it legal and 2 if its default it should be open source.
fine print
i know pm2 isnt and thats fine so no mods. but this is an open source product so default should be to help people mock up there skin. chokes done the hard work but skinners need (actually they dont but would help alot ) a reference so they dont have to reinvent the wheel. if that reference is pm1 thats great alough the skin is a little tired now its still open source, all props for that.
personally i can change anything in skin i want pretty easy, and hate stuff being said its open for mods and it isnt. from now on ill do stuff for myself and others can think they are getting full support its no skin off my nose. but ill be looking at doing a skin for newbes thats way easier to use than all skins now and looks good i like to talk to choke about it but the team is impossible to deal with so ive told kotix and we will start it soon.
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also if pm3 is standard and open source although there will be mods you will always get props when ever you dl off net cause its your exact skin they will see, we all know who did it and really we all know how good it is
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it is yawn all right for a default skin i beleive these 2 questions are valid?
is it legal (due it use other peoples graphics) and 2 if its default it should be open source.
thats all i want to know, got every other thing under sun thrown at me and never the answer to both these
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first i have to say i love pm3. absolutly lovely. thx chokemaniac for your hard work.
britneyspairs why so pushy ? it's just the graffics that's not "open source". a skinner can still look at how the skin is made from the xml files. if i made a skin that was this great i wouldn't want any one else use 99% of my work to mod it and later release a "new" skin calling it something else.
maybe chokemaniac thinks it's perfect the way it is and don't want to see some version that in his eyes is worse then the original. that could be a bad thing for him and his career if the wrong person sees the wrong version.
i may be overreacting but just accept chokemaniac's dessision and move on. make a new own skin instead and i will continue use pm3.
peace.
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ok ill leave this but id say they are valid questions for standard skin. only wanted direct answers pretty easy questions i thought. its easy enough to hack the graphics in skin as well, but think its a wierd to have a non open source default skin.
ok i wont mention this ever again but i tell you it dents open source and goes against it all what i thought xbmc stood for.
also i agree all i did was change everything that was asked in forums and i couldnt release patchs cause a it isnt open and had to open it and b because although they asked it wasnt really alowed to support people. so i released it as skin for all those that asked and he said dont mention him so i didnt then people say i passed it as mine yeah right read the read me in about 10 places it says its not mine
anyway enough is enough its silly
my point is this. i dont beleive its open source and its stollen from someone else anyway (dont care but though dev did) and never heard it mentioned.