XBMC on Raspberry Pi - Wonder if this will work out? (Historical Discussion Thread)

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wttwoa Offline
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if im not mistaken there was suppose to be a blog or article post on the raspberry pi website on what codecs that it has but he hasnt posted on it and they said he has been busy with something else.

edit: found the link : http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/feature...deo-codecs

op says:

Quote:I understand the Broadcom BCM2835 video decoder can support several codecs, but most likely it would only support H.264 in the Raspberry Pi due to license costs. For Audio, I don't expect the R-Pi would support DTS although it would be technically feasible.
I've seen some other devices (e.g. tablets) that are shipped without all codecs and you just need to pay extra and download some firmware to have access to those codecs.

Would that be possible to proceed in a similar way with the Raspberry Pi or can the codecs only be enabled/disabled during manufacturing ?

and the admin replies:
Quote:We've got a blog post coming up on this – stay tuned!

so it may look like we might get extra codecs?
(This post was last modified: 2012-01-24 18:31 by wttwoa.)
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Post: #167
davilla Wrote:On electronic devices, you MUST meet both voltage and current limits or risk the device blowing up (over voltage) or behaving badly or not at all (under current).

with me being an embedded electronics engineer - I quite get what you mean Big Grin
The success of the entire task will be dependant on the avg. drain current from the hdmi chip on the host. As "they" claim it's perfectly normal devices to provide much more than the minimum 55 mA and considering the recent boom in hdmi-powered "dongles" - it's likely that it's well enough for that device too.
Unless you plug it in a knock-off shanzai TV...

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MilhouseVH Wrote:Right, and since the foundation is geared towards education rather than media centers, I don't see them ponying up for any licenses that are superfluous to achieving their primary goal (and quite rightly too, although I'd be prepared to pay slightly more for a non-educational version if this were possible). So in the case of running XBMC, I'm assuming it will have to make do without any expensive licenses or the ability to use the GPU to help decode audio. I'm not even sure XBMC on Pi will be able to handle as many codecs (xvid/divx etc.) as you might find on more traditional hardware but only time will tell...

Yeah, I'm in total agreement. They should limit the codec licensing and focus on the aims of the foundation. I suspect the whole h264 licensing thing was to generate a buzz for the first 6-months of the device by having projects like xbmc pick up the ball and run with it.

It's the buzz generated by things like xbmc running on it (and hopefully tons of other cool oss projects) in the first six months that will ultimately determine how it fares in education-land.....

TBH, I'd buy one if no media centre software runs on it. If xbmc runs super-well I'll be glad (it'll help the foundation shift some boards) but it's not a deal-breaker for me.
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So there's a lot of tech speak going on in this thread that I'm in the dark about, but I was running XBMC on my ATV for a while and my beefier MKV (1080p rips) were crashing the ATV (out of Memory.) Switched over to Boxee, but miss XBMC greatly.

Comparatively speaking, should this Raspberry Pi unit be able to play these files?
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Sarlic Wrote:So there's a lot of tech speak going on in this thread that I'm in the dark about, but I was running XBMC on my ATV for a while and my beefier MKV (1080p rips) were crashing the ATV (out of Memory.) Switched over to Boxee, but miss XBMC greatly.

Comparatively speaking, should this Raspberry Pi unit be able to play these files?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NR57ELY2...e=youtu.be
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Sorry to go off topic slightly, but I notice there's been some pretty impressive Qt 5 demonstrations shown running on the Raspberry Pi, and they've made me wonder if there has ever been any thought about adopting Qt QML/Quick to code the XBMC GUI.

Qt handles with ease the kind of transitions, transformations and reflections that XBMC uses for case art etc., and Qt QML/Quick would automatically take advantage of hardware GPU acceleration when it is available.

Obviously switching to Qt would bugger up skins, plugins and what have you, but would it be a beneficial progression over the longer term?

Here's the latest tech demo (no audio)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-vBbqamNBU

and here's a much older demonstration (May 2010) of a Netflix application written in Qt 4.6, running on a Sigma Designs 500MHz MIPS SMP8654 processor with 256MB RAM:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5UotBqwDkE

Texture Cache Maintenance Utility: Preload your texture cache for optimal UI performance. Remotely manage media libraries. Purge unused artwork to free up space. Find missing media. Configurable QA check to highlight metadata issues. Aid in diagnosis of library and cache related problems.
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Yes, very off topic. Moving to something like QT would be a very painful refactor. Look at how long it took MythTV to do it and yet surprise, surprise, MythTV does not run on ANY embedded platform... Go figure.


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Quote:Obviously switching to Qt would bugger up skins, plugins and what have you, but would it be a beneficial progression over the longer term?

Still, seeming as the Raspberry Pi is an educational device primarily for programming, might it be worth having a crack at doing some of that QT stuff on xbmc...?

I'd certainly have a play if I can...
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Post: #174
Interesting article about the Raspberry Pi:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Can-Raspbe...7.html?x=0
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... and of course it also has the obligatory idiotic comment! Sigh.
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Engadget has the Beagle Board up with XBMC Eden B2 on tap.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/25/beagl...a-prowess/

Straight link to the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...s47MOHF9x8
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Post: #177
please stay on topic.
we don't want to learn about other set top boxes, beagle bones, programming languages and other shit that doesn't consern the PI + XBMC.
please discuss that in an other thread!
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PatK Wrote:Engadget has the Beagle Board up with XBMC Eden B2 on tap.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/25/beagl...a-prowess/

Straight link to the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...s47MOHF9x8

Very awesome.
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when is this Raspberry Pi coming out so that we can purchase it?

would it handle downloading files to an external harddrive and then running xbmc on it?

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rflores2323 Wrote:when is this Raspberry Pi coming out so that we can purchase it?

would it handle downloading files to an external harddrive and then running xbmc on it?

The first batch should be released within two weeks, although I expect them to go really fast. As soon as the Raspberry Pi guys get them from the factories and test some of them they will go on sale.

Yes is the answer to your second question.
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