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**scott967** · (This post was last modified: 2014-03-14, 13:50 by scott967.)

(2014-03-13, 12:29)sveni_lee Wrote: yes, same here...
Crosby, Stills and Nash didn't work
But I have problems with 'Earth, Wind & Fire' to

Been testing 1.6.2.6 against XBMC 13B1 variety of artists (Latin, Korean, Japanese script names) seems all working AFAICT.

No problem with EWF, CSN, or CSNY on Aeon MQ5 skin, but I only use APE tags n MP3 files as I find ID3 are problematic in XBMC. I also have MBID artist tagged which XBMC 13 will use for scraping, this may help. I have MusicBrainz spelling of band names.

scott s.
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sveni_lee · 2014-03-14, 13:41

Maybe you misunderstand...
The info you showing I have to... Thats are the artist information from the scraper.
What I mean are the information from the Artist Slideshow.
e.g. similar Artist or Discographie...

**scott967** · 2014-03-14, 14:21

(2014-03-14, 13:41)sveni_lee Wrote: Maybe you misunderstand...
The info you showing I have to... Thats are the artist information from the scraper.
What I mean are the information from the Artist Slideshow.

I'm pretty sure, it's from Artist Slideshow. The bio is the same in artist info, probably from the same site (the audiodb). I do have entries in the artistslideshow cache for both ArtistInformation and ArtistSlideShow and the info is all there.

Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>

<root>

    <artists type="list">

        <item type="dict">

            <strBiographyRU type="null"/>

            <strFacebook type="str"/>

            <strBiographySE type="null"/>

            <intBornYear type="null"/>

            <strLastFMChart type="null"/>

            <strBiographyIL type="null"/>

            <strBiographyPT type="null"/>

            <strArtistBanner type="null"/>

            <strArtistFanart2 type="str">http://www.theaudiodb.com/images/media/artist/fanart/crosby-stills--nash-4e477fdc83b71.jpg</strArtistFanart2>

            <strArtistFanart3 type="str">http://www.theaudiodb.com/images/media/artist/fanart/uwytqu1385548379.jpg</strArtistFanart3>

            <strGender type="str">Male</strGender>

            <strCountryCode type="str">US</strCountryCode>

            <strBiographyIT type="null"/>

            <strBiographyPL type="null"/>

            <intDiedYear type="null"/>

            <strBiographyEN type="str">Crosby, Stills &amp; Nash (CSN) is a folk rock supergroup made up of David Crosby, Stephen Stills and Graham Nash, also known as Crosby, Stills, Nash &amp; Young (CSNY) when joined by occasional fourth member Neil Young. They are noted for their intricate vocal harmonies (similar to Simon &amp; Garfunkel), often tumultuous interpersonal relationships, political activism, and lasting influence on American music and culture. All four members of CSNY have been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame twice, though Young&apos;s multiple inductions were for work not involving the group. Prior to the formation of CSN, each member of the band had belonged to another prominent group. David Crosby had performed rhythm guitar and vocals with folk-rock group The Byrds; Stephen Stills had been a guitarist, vocalist and songwriter in the band Buffalo Springfield; and Graham Nash had been a guitarist, vocalist and songwriter with The Hollies, one of the &quot;British Invasion&quot; acts.

Friction existed between David Crosby and his bandmates in the Byrds, and he was dismissed from the band in late 1967. By early 1968, Buffalo Springfield had also disintegrated over personal issues, and after aiding in putting together the band’s final album, Stephen Stills found himself unemployed by the summer. He and Crosby began meeting informally and jamming, and the result of one encounter in Florida on Crosby’s schooner was the song “Wooden Ships,” composed in collaboration with another guest, Jefferson Airplane&apos;s Paul Kantner.

Graham Nash had been introduced to Crosby when The Byrds had toured the United Kingdom in 1966, and when The Hollies ventured to California in 1968, Nash resumed his acquaintance with Crosby. At a party in July 1968 at Cass Elliot&apos;s house, Nash asked Stills and Crosby to repeat their performance of a new song by Stills, “You Don&apos;t Have To Cry,” with Nash improvising a second harmony part. The vocals jelled, and the three realized that they had a unique vocal chemistry.

Creatively frustrated with The Hollies, Nash decided to quit and throw his lot in with Crosby and Stills. After failing an audition with The Beatles&apos; Apple Records, they were signed to Atlantic Records by Ahmet Ertegün, who had been a fan of Buffalo Springfield and was disappointed by that band&apos;s demise. From the outset, given their respective band histories, the trio decided not to be locked into a group structure, using their surnames as identification to ensure independence and a guarantee against the band simply continuing without one of them, as had both The Byrds and The Hollies after the departures of Crosby and Nash. Their record contract with Atlantic reflected this, positioning CSN with a unique flexibility unheard-of for an untested group. The trio also picked up a unique management team in Elliot Roberts and David Geffen, who had engineered their situation with Atlantic and would help to consolidate clout for the group in the industry. Roberts kept the band focused and dealt with egos, while Geffen handled the business deals, since, in Crosby’s words, they needed a shark and Geffen was it. Roberts and Geffen would play key roles in securing the band’s success during the early years.

When it was announced that the band was forming, they ran into a slight contractual problem. Nash was already signed to Epic Records, the North American distributor of records by The Hollies, while Crosby and Stills were signed to Atlantic. In order to resolve this problem, Geffen engineered a deal whereby Nash was essentially traded to Atlantic for the rights to Richie Furay&apos;s band Poco; Furay was signed to Atlantic as a result of his membership in Buffalo Springfield.</strBiographyEN>

            <idLabel type="null"/>

            <strMusicBrainzID type="str">cfafad90-b736-4c74-8ded-f3f4d7b2c792</strMusicBrainzID>

            <strBiographyES type="null"/>

            <strArtistAlternate type="str"/>

            <strBiographyCN type="null"/>

            <strGenre type="str">Rock/Pop</strGenre>

            <strCountry type="str">California, USA</strCountry>

            <strArtist type="str">Crosby, Stills &amp; Nash</strArtist>

scott s.
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**scott967** · 2014-03-14, 14:35

BTW the Helper ver 3.1.1 seems to be working, as far as the as_hashlist.txt is concerned.

scott s.
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sveni_lee · 2014-03-14, 14:36

(2014-03-14, 14:21)scott967 Wrote: I'm pretty sure, it's from Artist Slideshow. The bio is the same in artist info, probably from the same site (the audiodb). I do have entries in the artistslideshow cache for both ArtistInformation and ArtistSlideShow and the info is all there.

I'm not 100% sure but the similar artist are from the last fm site... Is locatet in ~/xbmc/userdata/addon_data/script.artistslideshow/Artisinformation...

Code:
htbackdropsartistimages.nfo

lastfmartistalbums.nfo

lastfmartistbio.nfo

lastfmartistsimilar.nfo

musicbrainz.nfo

lastfmartistsimilar.nfo

Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>

<lfm status="ok">

<similarartists artist="Al Green">

<artist>

    <name>Marvin Gaye</name>

            <mbid>afdb7919-059d-43c1-b668-ba1d265e7e42</mbid>

        <match>1</match>

    <url>www.last.fm/music/Marvin+Gaye</url>

    <image size="small">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/34/49336665.png</image>

    <image size="medium">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/64/49336665.png</image>

    <image size="large">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/126/49336665.png</image>

    <image size="extralarge">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/49336665.png</image>

    <image size="mega">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/49336665/Marvin+Gaye+PNG.png</image>

    <streamable>1</streamable>

        </artist>

<artist>

    <name>Curtis Mayfield</name>

            <mbid>4dca4bb2-23ba-4103-97e6-5810311db33a</mbid>

        <match>0.934293</match>

    <url>www.last.fm/music/Curtis+Mayfield</url>

    <image size="small">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/34/50992593.png</image>

    <image size="medium">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/64/50992593.png</image>

    <image size="large">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/126/50992593.png</image>

    <image size="extralarge">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/50992593.png</image>

    <image size="mega">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/50992593/Curtis+Mayfield.png</image>

    <streamable>1</streamable>

        </artist>

<artist>

    <name>The Isley Brothers</name>

            <mbid>122fc324-f465-420f-be5b-9803939b0210</mbid>

        <match>0.833021</match>

    <url>www.last.fm/music/The+Isley+Brothers</url>

    <image size="small">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/34/38349457.jpg</image>

    <image size="medium">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/64/38349457.jpg</image>

    <image size="large">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/126/38349457.jpg</image>

    <image size="extralarge">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/38349457.jpg</image>

    <image size="mega">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/38349457/The+Isley+Brothers+Isley+Brothers++picture1++bett.jpg</image>

    <streamable>1</streamable>

        </artist>

sveni_lee

woodside · (This post was last modified: 2014-03-14, 16:18 by woodside.)

Hey brother... Is this normal?

I noticed an overwhelming number of pictures downloaded for an artist called "The Band"... 125 images (35+ megs) so I checked the settings and the setting to limit the cache was not set so I checked it to limit at 1024 as seen above. I then went and deleted that artists hash directories and everything in it, shut down and rebooted xbmc. I went back into that artist info screen and it then began to re-download the images for that artist.

After setting it to 1024 and rebooting...

as you can see it still downloaded over 35 megs worth of images for that one artist.
So I went back into the settings and set the cache limit to 128...

and it still downloaded over 35 megs for that one artist...

Is that normal?... Is that setting per artist or for all artists?... Is there a way to limit the number of images for each artist to say 4 images? Also there are only about 3 or 4 images that are even of that artist. Most of them are not even related to that artist, I'm thinking maybe it does that because of the generality of the name... "The Band"

**pkscout** · 2014-03-14, 18:31

(2014-03-14, 16:12)woodside Wrote: as you can see it still downloaded over 35 megs worth of images for that one artist.
So I went back into the settings and set the cache limit to 128...

and it still downloaded over 35 megs for that one artist...

Is that normal?... Is that setting per artist or for all artists?... Is there a way to limit the number of images for each artist to say 4 images? Also there are only about 3 or 4 images that are even of that artist. Most of them are not even related to that artist, I'm thinking maybe it does that because of the generality of the name... "The Band"

The setting is for all artists. And since the 35mb of images being downloaded is less than the maximum cache size you set of 128mb, AS will always download those images.

If you are using htbackdrops as an image source, you are probably going to get a load of images that aren't the right artist. I think AS will be able to find the MusicBrainz ID for the group, but if you look in the Artist Information folder for that artist and the musicbrainz.nfo file is empty, stick 8c90ad8c-9150-4c51-a1eb-342232e99d06 in (that's the ID for The Band). Then you'll images from TheAudioDB and Fanart.TV. There isn't any way to tell AS to just download x number of images, but check the wiki page (link in my sig) on how you can exclude files from showing (or being redownloaded). If you want to keep using htbackdrops as a source, that's probably your best bet.

**pkscout** · 2014-03-14, 18:51

I just added an Earth, Wind & Fire song to my library. AS properly got the MusicBrainz ID and then got images, bio, and similar artists with no problem. I would need to see a log file to help further.

woodside · (This post was last modified: 2014-03-14, 19:31 by woodside.)

(2014-03-14, 18:31)pkscuot Wrote:
(2014-03-14, 16:12)woodside Wrote: as you can see it still downloaded over 35 megs worth of images for that one artist.
So I went back into the settings and set the cache limit to 128...

and it still downloaded over 35 megs for that one artist...

Is that normal?... Is that setting per artist or for all artists?... Is there a way to limit the number of images for each artist to say 4 images? Also there are only about 3 or 4 images that are even of that artist. Most of them are not even related to that artist, I'm thinking maybe it does that because of the generality of the name... "The Band"

The setting is for all artists. And since the 35mb of images being downloaded is less than the maximum cache size you set of 128mb, AS will always download those images.

If you are using htbackdrops as an image source, you are probably going to get a load of images that aren't the right artist. I think AS will be able to find the MusicBrainz ID for the group, but if you look in the Artist Information folder for that artist and the musicbrainz.nfo file is empty, stick 8c90ad8c-9150-4c51-a1eb-342232e99d06 in (that's the ID for The Band). Then you'll images from TheAudioDB and Fanart.TV. There isn't any way to tell AS to just download x number of images, but check the wiki page (link in my sig) on how you can exclude files from showing (or being redownloaded). If you want to keep using htbackdrops as a source, that's probably your best bet.

Oh I see...I kinda get how it works now... Let me ask one more thing please, if it downloads 35 megs for one artist and other artists are added to the point of the cache limit and then more are added will it stop other artists from downloading images if the cache limit has been reached because one artist might have 35 megs of images? Hope I asked that right. If more artist are added will it delete some images automatically from the artist with 35 megs in order to have space for new artist? also all of the musicbrainz.nfo files are empty is that normal if most of my artist have MBID's?

**pkscout** · 2014-03-15, 01:48

(2014-03-14, 19:18)woodside Wrote: Oh I see...I kinda get how it works now... Let me ask one more thing please, if it downloads 35 megs for one artist and other artists are added to the point of the cache limit and then more are added will it stop other artists from downloading images if the cache limit has been reached because one artist might have 35 megs of images? Hope I asked that right. If more artist are added will it delete some images automatically from the artist with 35 megs in order to have space for new artist? also all of the musicbrainz.nfo files are empty is that normal if most of my artist have MBID's?

The cache manager checks the cache size after downloading all images for an artist and then deletes the oldest artists' images if needed.

Specific example:

pretend cache is set at 5mb (so I don't have to do a really long example)
download 2mb worth of images for Sting
cache now at 2mb, so nothing happens
download 2mb worth of Cher images
cache now at 4mb, so nothing happens
download 4mb of Billy Joel images
cache now at 8mb, delete Sting images
cache now at 6mb, delete Cher images
cache now at 4mb, so nothing else happens

Also, the cache manager won't delete the images for the currently playing artist, so on the off chance you have an artist with more images than your cache will hold, you'll be able to see them while the song is playing, but they would be deleted immediately after. I doubt that would ever happen though. I can't imagine one artist ever having even 64mb of images.

Hope that helps.

woodside · 2014-03-15, 01:57

(2014-03-15, 01:48)pkscuot Wrote:
(2014-03-14, 19:18)woodside Wrote: Oh I see...I kinda get how it works now... Let me ask one more thing please, if it downloads 35 megs for one artist and other artists are added to the point of the cache limit and then more are added will it stop other artists from downloading images if the cache limit has been reached because one artist might have 35 megs of images? Hope I asked that right. If more artist are added will it delete some images automatically from the artist with 35 megs in order to have space for new artist? also all of the musicbrainz.nfo files are empty is that normal if most of my artist have MBID's?

The cache manager checks the cache size after downloading all images for an artist and then deletes the oldest artists' images if needed.

Specific example:

pretend cache is set at 5mb (so I don't have to do a really long example)
download 2mb worth of images for Sting
cache now at 2mb, so nothing happens
download 2mb worth of Cher images
cache now at 4mb, so nothing happens
download 4mb of Billy Joel images
cache now at 8mb, delete Sting images
cache now at 6mb, delete Cher images
cache now at 4mb, so nothing else happens

Also, the cache manager won't delete the images for the currently playing artist, so on the off chance you have an artist with more images than your cache will hold, you'll be able to see them while the song is playing, but they would be deleted immediately after. I doubt that would ever happen though. I can't imagine one artist ever having even 64mb of images.

Hope that helps.

Understood well from your analogy... thank you.

**scott967** · (This post was last modified: 2014-03-15, 04:03 by scott967.)

(2014-03-14, 14:36)sveni_lee Wrote: I'm not 100% sure but the similar artist are from the last fm site... Is locatet in ~/xbmc/userdata/addon_data/script.artistslideshow/Artisinformation...

correct. And the lastfmartistsimilar.nfo for CSN starts out like this:

Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>

<lfm status="ok">

<similarartists artist="Crosby, Stills &amp; Nash">

<artist>

    <name>Crosby, Stills, Nash &amp; Young</name>

            <mbid>46a782ea-4308-476b-abd1-a91b197f3037</mbid>

        <match>1</match>

    <url>www.last.fm/music/Crosby,+Stills,+Nash+&amp;+Young</url>

    <image size="small">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/34/29389591.jpg</image>

    <image size="medium">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/64/29389591.jpg</image>

    <image size="large">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/126/29389591.jpg</image>

    <image size="extralarge">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/29389591.jpg</image>

    <image size="mega">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/29389591/Crosby+Stills+Nash++Young+PN017528.jpg</image>

    <streamable>1</streamable>

        </artist>

<artist>

    <name>Stephen Stills</name>

            <mbid>5642774a-72c0-4099-8da4-7c1ab36378a8</mbid>

        <match>0.816779</match>

    <url>www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Stills</url>

    <image size="small">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/34/36455913.jpg</image>

    <image size="medium">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/64/36455913.jpg</image>

    <image size="large">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/126/36455913.jpg</image>

    <image size="extralarge">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/36455913.jpg</image>

    <image size="mega">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/36455913/Stephen+Stills+Stills.jpg</image>

    <streamable>1</streamable>

        </artist>

<artist>

    <name>Crosby &amp; Nash</name>

            <mbid>ed944321-63d7-4275-a272-3e856d42a7bf</mbid>

        <match>0.765673</match>

    <url>www.last.fm/music/Crosby+&amp;+Nash</url>

    <image size="small">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/34/54729345.jpg</image>

    <image size="medium">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/64/54729345.jpg</image>

    <image size="large">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/126/54729345.jpg</image>

    <image size="extralarge">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/54729345.jpg</image>

    <image size="mega">http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/54729345/Crosby++Nash+tumblr_l5e4ihAlBa1qaen5qo1_500.jpg</image>

    <streamable>1</streamable>

        </artist>

All is working correctly on my end.

I did make a stab at running artistslideshow in the 0311 nightly and got many errors, but I was only interested in testing a certain PR and I'm not too motivated to look more at this nightly. Would be interested if anyone is running a current nightly if AS is working for them.

scott s.
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back · 2014-03-15, 11:17

(2014-03-13, 23:17)pkscuot Wrote:
(2014-03-13, 22:38)back Wrote: Thanks! The song now works. But I'm still having problems with Gunship Politico. I get a message saying "no images found". After that no other artists work either. Is this a know bug?

I don't think there is a bug. I just checked, and Gunship Politico is not in MusicBrainz, TheAudioDB, Fanart.TV, or HTbackdrops.org. That's all the places AS has for image sources, so you won't get any images. I did find them in Last.FM, so you will probably get an artist bio and album information. Last.FM removed the ability to get images from them, so even if there are images in the Last.FM database, AS can't find or download them anymore.

You'll need to either find and download some art of your own locally or upload some to one of the sites from which AS can get images.

Thank you for your answer.

I accept that Gunship Politico can't be found. What i can't understand is why no pictures after that shows up, even when playing artist which pictures worked pre playing Gunship Politico. Does the script crash if no pictures can be found? Can this be fixed?

muckster · 2014-03-15, 14:59

I'm pretty new to my openelec pi, but artist slideshow is just about the best thing about it. Thanks for the very cool add-on.

I got two questions I couldn't find answers too -- I tried to read through the thread but gave up about halfway.

- How do I force AS to redownload/update/refresh its pool of images? When I first set it up, there were 3 images for Phish on fanart.tv. I submitted a bunch more to the site that were accepted. But AS still only shows the first 3 and I can't seem to get it to grab the rest. I clicked my way through all the settings and all the menus I could find, but no luck. Thanks. (It'd also be cool to know how to disallow certain images from showing, but that's a separate question.)

- Also, I'd like to slow down the slideshow. If I understand it correctly, that's something I'd have to do in the skin, not the add-on? I'm using Metropolis, FWIW.

Thanks again.

**pkscout** · (This post was last modified: 2014-03-15, 19:11 by pkscout.)

(2014-03-15, 11:17)back Wrote: I accept that Gunship Politico can't be found. What i can't understand is why no pictures after that shows up, even when playing artist which pictures worked pre playing Gunship Politico. Does the script crash if no pictures can be found? Can this be fixed?

I would need to see a debug log. I have many artists with no images, and I haven't had a problem with images loading for the next artist.

(2014-03-15, 14:59)muckster Wrote: - How do I force AS to redownload/update/refresh its pool of images? When I first set it up, there were 3 images for Phish on fanart.tv. I submitted a bunch more to the site that were accepted. But AS still only shows the first 3 and I can't seem to get it to grab the rest. I clicked my way through all the settings and all the menus I could find, but no luck. Thanks. (It'd also be cool to know how to disallow certain images from showing, but that's a separate question.)

AS checks for new images every couple of weeks. To force a refresh you need to go to the XBMC user data folder and then into addon_data/script.artistslideshow/Artist Information. Find the right folder and delete the .nfo file for the image source for which you'd like to refresh the images.

The artist names are hashed, so you might want to download Artist Slideshow Helper to get a mapping of your artists and their hash name. If you run AS Helper and get nothing back, try the beta. If fixes a problem when your XBMC version is using Python 2.7 or newer.

Quote:- Also, I'd like to slow down the slideshow. If I understand it correctly, that's something I'd have to do in the skin, not the add-on? I'm using Metropolis, FWIW.

You are correct, that is a skin setting. You should check with the skin developer to be sure, but usually that is in a file called MusicVisualization.xml. Look for the section for artist slideshow and there is a line for timeperimage. The setting is in milliseconds. It's worth mentioning that AS assumes a slide time of ten seconds. If skin developers set it to something else, then the slideshow timing when images are first downloading for an artist can be a little wacky.