I'm looking at upgrading my HTPC to a new laptop and the deals on Intel models are kick'n tail... is there is a decoding and PQ issue with Intel HD 2000 and/or 3000?
thx!
Intel GFX on Windows - still a problem with XBMC?
Livin
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2012-04-27 01:56
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I'm not an expert but I play one at work. |
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eskro
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2012-04-27 02:00
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besides the 24p issue, nope
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Livin
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2012-04-27 02:14
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I've seen some review sites doing evals of the PQ and they had some 1080p tests that Intel fell on its face on. I'm not a pixel peeper but I do have a 65" screen I sit 9 feet from. Wondering if it is anything to worry about with Intel?
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live4ever
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2012-04-27 05:36
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ffmpeg CPU decoding should be fine - but how's the hardware DXVA based stuff doing these days?
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bluray
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2012-04-27 05:55
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Check this out- Let's set this straight - No one can do 24p consistently well
This "Intel announces Ivy Bridge desktop and mobile CPUs" with HD4000 is coming very soon...
>Alienware X51- do it all HTPC >Simplify XBMC configurations >HOW-TO Bitstreaming using XBMC I refused to watch movie without bitstreaming HD audio! |
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Livin
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2012-04-27 07:33
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(2012-04-27 05:55)bluray Wrote: Check this out- Let's set this straight - No one can do 24p consistently well I don't care about 24p really... more about up-scaling and post processing. As for HD4000, only in the high-end Intel CPUs anyway... at that price point you'd be an idiot to buy it for HTPC when you could go get much more bang for the $ by spending that same $ on a dedicated GFX card. I'm sticking with AMD or NVIDIA... If someone has a small TV (~50" or under - yes, that is small these days) and sits 8-10' or farther away - then they may not notice a difference in PQ with Intel's completely crappy HD3000 or 2500... But when using a larger TV or sitting close there will be a noticeable difference - especially with upconverting. And forget about any post processing with Intel HD3000 or HD2500 GPU or running high-end decoders like LAV or madVR. here's a good example of how bad the Intel HD3000 is... http://techreport.com/articles.x/21099/11 I'm not an expert but I play one at work.
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bluray
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2012-04-27 17:01
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@Livin.....
Here are full tests on Intel graphic cards....Intel HD Graphics 3000 and Intel HD Graphics 2000 Review. Page 9...... >Alienware X51- do it all HTPC >Simplify XBMC configurations >HOW-TO Bitstreaming using XBMC I refused to watch movie without bitstreaming HD audio!
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Livin
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2012-04-27 17:22
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(2012-04-27 17:01)bluray Wrote: @Livin..... That 'review' is useless as a test of ability beyond basic HD decoding - and it ONLY uses Cyberlink software. It has no tests with video post-processing, no tests with color or pixel accuracy, no tests, no test, etc, etc. I'm not an expert but I play one at work. |
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eskro
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2012-04-27 18:34
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yeah review not good, +1 Livin
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bluray
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2012-04-27 23:26
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(2012-04-27 17:22)Livin Wrote:The only way to find out is to try it on your 60" HDTV......I playback my blu-ray files in full 1080P using HD2000 with smaller screen, and it looks fine. The PQ is no different than my HTPC's with Nvidia and AMD discrete GPU.....(2012-04-27 17:01)bluray Wrote: @Livin..... Since you don't care about 24p, it might be okay on your 60" HDTV.........and eSkro confirmed it in post #2 "besides the 24p issue, nope"..... I wish I have 60" HDTV to try it for you..... >Alienware X51- do it all HTPC >Simplify XBMC configurations >HOW-TO Bitstreaming using XBMC I refused to watch movie without bitstreaming HD audio! |
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