Win How Windows/MonInfo detects receivers and TV ?
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Hello,

I have the following setup:

HD Radeon 6450
--> HDMI connected to a Yamaha SR-301 receiver (is the receiver of the YHT-S401 soundbar)
--> DVI connected to a Dell 2009W 20" TFT

Yamaha SR-301
--> HDMI connected to a Philips 42PFL8404H

I've seen that what Windows or MonInfo see depends on which devices are powered on:

- If both of them are powered on: Windows/Monifo see the Philips
- If only the receiver is powered on: Windows/Moninfo see the Yamaha

It seems normally because Windows see both devices as a Display panel (well Catalyst Control Center has the same behaviour).

Things I've seen that seems strange to me:

- If the SR-301 is powered off, then the Philips TV doesn't have signal from the PC (so it doesn't have HDMI passthrough)
- SR-301 defaults to 1080i @ 30 Hz in Catalyst
- SR-301 doesn't have the option to set at 1080p @ 24 Hz if we don't force this mode to be added to Display Manager (but as per SR-301 specs is supported)
- SR-301 only have by default 1080p @ 25, 29, 30, 50, 59, 60 in CCC
- Philips defaults to 1080p @ 60 Hz in Catalyst
- Philips have by default 1080p @ 23, 24, 25, 29, 30, 50, 59, 60 in CCC

Other things are the output of real information in Moninfo:

Here is the info for Dell 2009W:

http://xbmclogs.com/show.php?id=2220

Here is the info for the Philips in the time when I didn't have the receiver yet, so PC connected directly to the TV:

http://xbmclogs.com/show.php?id=2221

The info for the SR-301 receiver (when it is powered on and the Philips powered off):

http://xbmclogs.com/show.php?id=2222

Well, and now the curiosity, the output for the Philips when both devices are powered on. It seems like a merge of settings for both components (for example, the audio formats are those of the receiver):

Code:
Monitor #2 [Real-time 0x0031]
  Model name............... Philips FTV
  Manufacturer............. Philips
  Plug and Play ID......... PHL0000
  Serial number............ n/a
  Manufacture date......... 2009, ISO week 8
  Filter driver............ None
  -------------------------
  EDID revision............ 1.3
  Input signal type........ Digital
  Color bit depth.......... Undefined
  Display type............. RGB color
  Screen size.............. 1280 x 720 mm (57.8 in)
  Power management......... Not supported
  Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
  -------------------------
  DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
  Default color space...... Non-sRGB
  Display gamma............ 2.20
  Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.640 - Ry 0.330
  Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.290 - Gy 0.600
  Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.150 - By 0.060
  White point (default).... Wx 0.289 - Wy 0.299
  Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
  Horizontal scan range.... 15-70kHz
  Vertical scan range...... 48-62Hz
  Video bandwidth.......... 150MHz
  CVT standard............. Not supported
  GTF standard............. Not supported
  Additional descriptors... None
  Preferred timing......... Yes
  Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080i at 50Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080i at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - IBM VGA
     800 x  600p at  60Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  60Hz - VESA
    1360 x  765p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1280 x 1024p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1600 x 1200p at  60Hz - VESA STD

EIA/CEA-861 Information
  Revision number.......... 3
  IT underscan............. Supported
  Basic audio.............. Supported
  YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported
  YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported
  Native formats........... 4
  Detailed timing #1....... 1280x720p at 50Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1720 1760 1980 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #2....... 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync

CE video identifiers (VICs) - timing/formats supported
    1920 x 1080p at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080p at  24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080p at  25Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080p at  30Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080i at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080i at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1280 x  720p at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1280 x  720p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
     720 x  576p at  50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
     720 x  576p at  50Hz - EDTV (4:3, 16:15)
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
     720 x  576i at  50Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 64:45)
     720 x  480i at  60Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 32:27)
     720 x  576i at  50Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 16:15)
     720 x  480i at  60Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 8:9)
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - Default (4:3, 1:1)
    1440 x  480p at  60Hz - DVD (4:3, 4:9)
    1440 x  480p at  60Hz - DVD (16:9, 16:27)
    1440 x  576p at  50Hz - DVD (4:3, 8:15)
    1440 x  576p at  50Hz - DVD (16:9, 32:45)
    2880 x  480i at  60Hz - Console (4:3, 2:9-20:9)
    2880 x  480i at  60Hz - Console (16:9, 8:27-80:27)
    2880 x  576i at  50Hz - Console (4:3, 2:15-20:15)
    2880 x  576i at  50Hz - Console (16:9, 16:45-160:45)
    2880 x  480p at  60Hz - Console (4:3, 2:9)
    2880 x  480p at  60Hz - Console (16:9, 8:27)
    2880 x  576p at  50Hz - Console (4:3, 4:15)
    2880 x  576p at  50Hz - Console (16:9, 16:45)
    NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001

CE audio data (formats supported)
  LPCM    2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
  LPCM    8-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
  AC-3    6-channel,  640k max. bit rate at 32/44/48 kHz
  DTS     7-channel, 1536k max. bit rate at 32/44/48/88/96 kHz
  DD+     8-channel                      at 44/48 kHz
  DVD-A   8-channel                      at 48/96/192 kHz
  DTS-HD  8-channel, 16-bit              at 48/96/192 kHz

CE speaker allocation data
  Channel configuration.... 7.1
  Front left/right......... Yes
  Front LFE................ Yes
  Front center............. Yes
  Rear left/right.......... Yes
  Rear center.............. No
  Front left/right center.. No
  Rear left/right center... Yes
  Rear LFE................. No

CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
  IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
  CEC physical address..... 1.1.0.0
  Supports AI (ACP, ISRC).. Yes
  Supports 48bpp........... No
  Supports 36bpp........... Yes
  Supports 30bpp........... Yes
  Supports YCbCr 4:4:4..... Yes
  Supports dual-link DVI... No
  Maximum TMDS clock....... 225MHz
  Audio/video latency (p).. n/a
  Audio/video latency (i).. n/a
  HDMI video capabilities.. No
  Data payload............. 030C001100B82D00

CE colorimetry data
  xvYCC709 support......... Yes
  xvYCC601 support......... Yes
  sYCC601 support.......... No
  AdobeYCC601 support...... No
  AdobeRGB support......... No
  Metadata profile flags... 0x01

Report information
  Date generated........... 5/4/2012
  Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
  Data source.............. Real-time 0x0031
  Operating system......... 6.1.7601.2.Service Pack 1

Raw data
  00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,41,0C,00,00,01,01,01,01,08,13,01,03,80,80,48,78,0A,E6,92,A3,54,4A,99,26,
  0F,4A,4C,21,08,00,8B,C0,81,80,A9,40,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,1D,80,D0,72,1C,16,20,10,2C,
  25,80,00,D0,52,00,00,9E,01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,25,00,00,D0,52,00,00,9E,00,00,00,FC,00,50,
  68,69,6C,69,70,73,20,46,54,56,0A,20,00,00,00,FD,00,30,3E,0F,46,0F,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,01,E9,
  02,03,4A,F4,5E,1F,10,20,21,22,14,05,13,04,12,03,11,02,16,07,15,06,01,0E,0F,1D,1E,0A,0B,19,1A,23,
  24,25,26,35,09,7F,07,0F,7F,07,15,07,50,3E,1F,C0,57,06,00,67,54,00,5F,54,01,83,4F,00,00,68,03,0C,
  00,11,00,B8,2D,00,E3,05,03,01,01,1D,00,BC,52,D0,1E,20,B8,28,55,40,00,D0,52,00,00,1E,01,1D,00,72,
  51,D0,1E,20,6E,28,55,00,C4,8E,21,00,00,1E,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,D7

Sorry for this long post but my questions are the following:

- Which settings do I set the Philips (well, the Philips when both devices are powered on) in Windows / CCC? (resolution is 1920x1080 but wich refresh?)
- Must I override the Generic PnP Monitor in Windows by an INF file generated by MonInfo?

Here are the INF generated for the Yamaha:

http://xbmclogs.com/show.php?id=2223

and the Philips (when the Yamaha is on):

http://xbmclogs.com/show.php?id=2224

Any help would be very appreciated.

Thanks.
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