Linux Which TV server would you recommend?

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(2012-05-14 22:31)mystefix Wrote:  tvheadend is able to wakeup the htpc to start the recording and also to suspend it after the recording is finished.

You have seen this? => http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=115758

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yep, now Smile before i was not aware of it, edit my post Smile
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my absolut favorit ... tvheadend
easy to use, easy to set up ....

only drawback ... no timeshift.

oh no another drawback .... how the hell can i delete tvheadends epg data?

lets say it has its drawbacks ...
slow support, my epg keeps loosing data more and more channels have no epg, now timeshift, ...
but it also has its advantages
easy to use and set up, very good support for oscam, ....

but the alternatives on linux are limitted
.... vdr .... a little complicated to set up
.... mythtv ... you could write a master thesis on how to set up mythtv right Big Grin

about 4therecord i am not able to say somthing due to the fact that i never tried it .... maybe i should.
but as far as i know tvheadend is much more easy to combine with oscam and my sky card.

just my 2 cent
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I have tried mythtv and tvheadend and prefer mythtv at the moment as with tvheadend I could not get full epg over eit for some reason and 5 times out of 10 xbmc would complain there was no source when changing channel and I would get the odd buffering issue during play back even though running on the same machine. The plus side was instant channel change on live tv when all working right.

Mythtv got all epg data no problem , easy to get logos as well, seems more stable apart from an issue introduced in a current build of the cmyth addon (which is always being improved). The only downside is it takes a few seconds to change channel which is a limitation of mythtv and is to do with the way it records live tv so I am told. The current version of the cmyth addon supports timeshifting in its early stages using the backends timeshift files.
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(2012-05-15 06:52)Mantus Wrote:  .... mythtv ... you could write a master thesis on how to set up mythtv right Big Grin
MythTv has been on the tv recording game for many many years. I'm using it for about 7 years and IMHO it's the best software there is in that front. It's only natural that it has *many* configuration options but I think the defaults are sane for any newbie, the setup wizards are working fine and the docs are plenty. You can setup a backend with mythbuntu in half an hour. Then you have the mythweb interface from which you can control everything.
In few months time with the release of Frodo you'll have full power on it from within XBMC (tsp's plugin already does a lot and Myth0.25 integration will be soon there).

In my current family htpc setup, I use MythWeb to setup recording rules and I've added the recordings folder as a video source in XBMC. So MythBackend (0.25) does the recording and I watch them from XBMC as video files. In that way I can watch even livetv with timeshifting.
(This post was last modified: 2012-05-15 15:42 by ph77.)
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Tongue  RE: Which TV server would you recommend? Post: #16
Hi,

I prefer tvheadend. As said before - it's simple to install and maintain via a Web-Interface, very ressource efficient, fast and easy to setup for more advanced techniques that are not allowed to be discussed here Rofl.

Timeshift - let's first define it - do you mean the service of permanent instant recording ? This was one of the "features" which is why I abandoned Windows MCE or MythTV (I read that you can't disable it in both programs ..) .. I simply don't want the tv server to record the whole time 'cause it stresses the disc ..

You can "emulate" timeshift simply by starting to record a program and going to it's destination folder where you start watching the recorded video file .. that's timeshift that works - and all I need ..

So long

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(2012-05-15 15:45)LastCoder Wrote:  Timeshift - let's first define it - do you mean the service of permanent instant recording ? This was one of the "features" which is why I abandoned Windows MCE or MythTV (I read that you can't disable it in both programs ..) .. I simply don't want the tv server to record the whole time 'cause it stresses the disc ..

RAM is cheap these days Wink
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(2012-05-15 16:49)KRA77 Wrote:  
(2012-05-15 15:45)LastCoder Wrote:  Timeshift - let's first define it - do you mean the service of permanent instant recording ? This was one of the "features" which is why I abandoned Windows MCE or MythTV (I read that you can't disable it in both programs ..) .. I simply don't want the tv server to record the whole time 'cause it stresses the disc ..

RAM is cheap these days Wink

While this is true, the transport streams are not simply stored in RAM. They are flushed to disk fairly quickly. It would be nice for this "buffering" not to happen unless someone is actually watching LiveTV.
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(2012-05-15 11:51)ph77 Wrote:  
(2012-05-15 06:52)Mantus Wrote:  .... mythtv ... you could write a master thesis on how to set up mythtv right Big Grin
MythTv has been on the tv recording game for many many years. I'm using it for about 7 years and IMHO it's the best software there is in that front. It's only natural that it has *many* configuration options but I think the defaults are sane for any newbie, the setup wizards are working fine and the docs are plenty. You can setup a backend with mythbuntu in half an hour. Then you have the mythweb interface from which you can control everything.
In few months time with the release of Frodo you'll have full power on it from within XBMC (tsp's plugin already does a lot and Myth0.25 integration will be soon there).

In my current family htpc setup, I use MythWeb to setup recording rules and I've added the recordings folder as a video source in XBMC. So MythBackend (0.25) does the recording and I watch them from XBMC as video files. In that way I can watch even livetv with timeshifting.

tvheadend is installed with just one line (apt-get) on my allready running ubuntu server.
oscam and mythtv is also not that easy, like adding a codewordclient in tvheadend
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(2012-05-15 19:58)Mantus Wrote:  tvheadend is installed with just one line (apt-get) on my allready running ubuntu server.
oscam and mythtv is also not that easy, like adding a codewordclient in tvheadend
Similarly apt-get install mythtv-backend-master mythtv-frontend.Smile
The point is not if you spend 10 minutes or half an hour to set it up, but what you demand from it and how well it suits your needs.
I setup my current server only once, two years ago and never touched it again. I upgraded from 0.24 to 0.25 with only the apt-get. But the features is what counts.
I have some complex recording rules which are impossible to achieve with tvheadend or vdr.
For example check out the "Power Search" in custom recording rules (in MythWeb or MythFrontend). You have unlimited power over the recording rules.
Then EIT data come smoothly in MythTv whereas in the other programs I've always had problems when I tried them.
(This post was last modified: 2012-05-15 22:59 by ph77.)
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