Bannerplex navigation issues when Infopanel is visible

In TV shows, in Bannerplex view, if I navigate up to make the Infopanel slide into view, I cannot then navigate through all banners without the Infopanel disappearing again.

This is because the banners are on multiple rows and in multiple columns, so you need to be able to navigate up/down/left and right to get to all banners.

But, if you have navigated up to make the Infopanel appear, you can then ONLY navigate left/right to switch banners, which means you can only navigate between banners in the top row of the Bannerplex view whilst keeping the Infopanel visible.

If you navigate down you end up selecting banner again and the Infopanel vanishes.

If you navigate up you slide out the menu on the left and again, the Infopanel vanishes.

In summary then, how do you activate the Infopanel while in Bannerplex mode and KEEP the Infopanel visible while you browse around between ALL banners / TV shows ?

by setting infopanel to "on" perhaps?

Sigh.

Always a sarcastic response.

Did you READ my post properly?

Yes, I can turn it "on" permanently ... gee, thanks for that pearl of wisdom.

I am TALKING ABOUT the "trigger" mode. There are 2 distinct modes for the Infopanel. Always on, which constantly obscures the fanart, or "trigger" mode, which allows you to slide the Infopanel into view when you want it there and then get rid of it ad-hoc.

If you actually bothered to go do some experimenting and LOOK at what I wrote and check it for yourself you would have seen that.

In "trigger" mode, if you navigate upwards enough such that you move off of the top row of banners in Bannerplex mode, you "trigger" the Infopanel and it slides into view. BUT, if you then navigate either up or down from that point you immediately lose the Infopanel again. It hides.

Normally, in "trigger" mode, you can bring it into view, then navigate around collection of media and it stays with you until YOU trigger a "hide" action.

The fact that Bannerplex has 3 rows and multiple columns of banners means you need up/down/left and right to navigate between all of them, and you can't do that because up/down will HIDE the Infopanel.

So again, can anybody who KNOWS what they are talking about and feels like being helpful and useful instead of sarcastic and assuming I'm an !diot when in fact I know exactly what I'm doing and I only post to the forums if I cannot solve a problem after considerable effort, please offer some insight?

Can I get confirmation that other people see the same behaviour please?

I'm looking for intelligent constructive input to troubleshoot a legitimate problem here.

@SiliconKid
I suggest you keep your head cool!
I've already seen you in other threads do be warned!


Phil65 is the one helping BigNoid coding this skin so he KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT!

(2012-05-13 14:56)SiliconKid Wrote:  In summary then, how do you activate the Infopanel while in Bannerplex mode and KEEP the Infopanel visible while you browse around between ALL banners / TV shows ?

that´s what I answered.

Since the banner area is a panel, it is not possible to achieve what you want without a keymap hack + seperate key on remote .
Keep cool. If you look around here you should be able to see that I´m willing to help everyone.

Sorry about that outburst.

I get carried away when I see what looks like sarcasm being directed at a perfectly valid question.

@phil65 : Your 2nd answer is what I was looking for. You've now confirmed what I suspected based on my exhaustive testing of that area this side and all the scenarios I've already cycled through to try and make it work.

@Martijn : He may know what he's talking about. So do I. I did a LOT of testing and investigation into this before I posted so I still maintain that a sarcastic response to what was a perfectly valid question that it now turns out DOES indentify an issue in that area as per phil65's own acknowledgement above, was unnecessary. I posted a very clear description of the issue right from the beginning and given that phil65 is as advanced as he is and knows what he's talking about you can't tell me he couldn't understand that I was talking about "trigger" mode in the first place and give me his 2nd useful response as his first response.

So the reality here is that phil65 initially gave a knee jerk reaction in this case and THEN answered my question properly. My original post and query was clear and valid.

You will recall that I have contributed to the community myself and asked several other valid questions on these forums and that I know what I'm doing and I have no time for sarcasm. I am only interested in intelligent constructive exchange and results.

(2012-05-13 14:56)SiliconKid Wrote:  In summary then, how do you activate the Infopanel while in Bannerplex mode and KEEP the Infopanel visible while you browse around between ALL banners / TV shows ?

look at the words you put in uppercase. and then think about your answers again. i perfectly answered your question.
it should be logical that the panel cannot be deactivated when in middle of panel. how should we achieve that? it´s just not possible without dirty hacks.
if you find my answers sarcastic, ignore them. perhaps you´ll find other persons who help you.
who´s givin a jerk reaction definitely depends on perspective.

That paragraph was a summation of the rest of the post, which in it's entirety gave full context to what my meaning was.

I thought you might take that one paragraph out of context and then try to use that to explain yourself.

Your original answer was sarcastic and that was unnecessary. It's that simple.

I don't need to think about my answers again. I know exactly what I said, what the context was, and how it was phrased. You chose to ignore the context and respond to that one paragraph taken out of context.

I asked a relatively complex question and involved question but you chose to give a short, sarcastic response because you immediately assumed I was just another stupid end user who doesn't have a clue.

I'm actually a software developer myself, for over 20 years and I'm technical lead who is the head of an entire software development team in my professional capacity. I know a few things about a few things when it comes to software.

I happen to think that XBMC is a fantasic system and also happen to particularly like the Aeon Nox skin.

I have a great deal of appreciation for the hard work that people like yourself put into projects like this and I really do understand what is involved in the work you do.

I just don't appreciate being handled like I'm stupid.

You read your original answer to my query and you try tell me honestly that you weren't being sarcastic. You were.

But then after that you did answer my question with a technical response, properly, and I appreciate THAT response.

(2012-05-13 19:46)SiliconKid Wrote:  That paragraph was a summation of the rest of the post, which in it's entirety gave full context to what my meaning was.

I thought you might take that one paragraph out of context and then try to use that to explain yourself.

Your original answer was sarcastic and that was unnecessary. It's that simple.

I don't need to think about my answers again. I know exactly what I said, what the context was, and how it was phrased. You chose to ignore the context and respond to that one paragraph taken out of context.

I asked a relatively complex question and involved question but you chose to give a short, sarcastic response because you immediately assumed I was just another stupid end user who doesn't have a clue.

I'm actually a software developer myself, for over 20 years and I'm technical lead who is the head of an entire software development team in my professional capacity. I know a few things about a few things when it comes to software.

I happen to think that XBMC is a fantasic system and also happen to particularly like the Aeon Nox skin.

I have a great deal of appreciation for the hard work that people like yourself put into projects like this and I really do understand what is involved in the work you do.

I just don't appreciate being handled like I'm stupid.

You read your original answer to my query and you try tell me honestly that you weren't being sarcastic. You were.

But then after that you did answer my question with a technical response, properly, and I appreciate THAT response.

then your summation was completelty wrong and you should have just specified your question.
I´m answering x questions here a day, so if someone writes a summation i suspect that it is really a summation.
almost funny how someone can rant around like that just because of the word "perhaps".. you´re really thin-skinned.

What's funny is how you can't just admit that you were being sarcastic when it's blatantly obvious.

Your very first response could have been:

"I'm not sure if you are specifically referring to "trigger" mode here. In that mode you won't be able to do what you are talking about because of the inherent problems with navigation. But you can, however, turn the Infopanel on permanently to work around this."

Instead you CHOSE to be sarcastic. And guess what? I'm tired of sarcastic responses to people on forums. I respect what you do and I DO appreciate the work and effort you put into this but that does NOT mean that it's acceptable to dismiss a legitimate question with a sarcastic response like that.

I haven't let this go on principle because too often someone like yourself who IS knowledgeable and does know what they are talking about forgets that most of the rest of the world don't know anywhere close to what you know and NEED your constructive input and help. Being knowledgeable and skillful does not give you the right to treat other people like they are stupid when they ask legitimate questions and are trying to learn.

You first response was neither constructive, nor helpful. And unlike the 95% of other users who might be prepared to just ignore this kind of thing and keep searching the entire internet in the hope they get a decent answer, I WILL take issue with it.

These forums are here so people can learn things and be helped by the senior members who are more knowledgeable and understand what's going on. No so that people who are having issues and battling to understand things can be berated and spoken down to.

It's not a question of having a thin skin, it's a question of principle and standing my ground.

And you effectively just admitted that you didn't read my entire 1st post properly and based your sarcastic response on the summary only.

The reason my summary wasn't perfectly phrased was because I was having trouble understanding the expected behaviour and I actually wasn't sure how to phrase it, which was precisely why I posted that involved explanation on this forum in the first place which you evidently didn't bother to read properly.