[REQUEST] Alternativ TV scraper to thetvdb.com, please.

It's high time to dump the scaper since it's NOT consistant with real-world reality. They are more or less having the site as a "History Channel' for aired episodes (and not always correct) and not a database for how the networks are selling their products, hence how XBMC users would like to have their libraries ordered.

E.g. my latest encounter of off-the-wall episode ordering is with the series "Terra Nova" that I just required from iTunes WEB-DL. There is 13 episodes but THETVDB only flies 11. I won't bore you to much with structure details but when searching for a sollution on their forum got this more or less insulting reply to another user: http://forums.thetvdb.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9127. End of story for using thetvdb scraper for the tv series "Terra Nova" and instead adding the folder to the "Movies" folder in order to use IMDb as movies scraper. Every other TV site has the correct order or gives the ability to work around couble episodes etc., like the pilot e01-02 and the season finale split into their own names.
(On my HDD the folders are "Movies", "Series" and "Musicvideos" (later which scraper isn't working at all, btw) so that I only have to drop a new folder on to the HDD without adding anything in XBMC.) In short, my XBMC library is NOT what it could have been, due to the state of thetvdb scraper.

Is there someone who can make another scraper for TV series using another Db, i.e. NOT thetvdb.com? Maybe use the IMDb scraper for movies to work for TV series as well?
Or if any other TV sites have a API to use, like;
next-episode.net
tvrage.com
tv.com
imdb.com
and others

Hopeful...
Wulf

I found this thread so I guess this one is redundant.
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=110861

+ 1 for fanart.tv to conquer the internets. The guys over there are doing a fantastic job with pumping out artwork for all TV shows and Movies, And now even music artwork. I Just don't know how they find the time

(2012-05-20 23:37)Oddsodz Wrote:  + 1 for fanart.tv to conquer the internets. The guys over there are doing a fantastic job with pumping out artwork for all TV shows and Movies, And now even music artwork. I Just don't know how they find the time

We have an 96 hour day

They removed the info for the p90x videos that I posted and it pissed me off royally. That said, it helps if your shows' filenames follow standard naming conventions. Try this http://www.therenamer.com/

(2012-05-20 23:37)Oddsodz Wrote:  + 1 for fanart.tv to conquer the internets. The guys over there are doing a fantastic job with pumping out artwork for all TV shows and Movies, And now even music artwork. I Just don't know how they find the time

Randomly stumbling upon comments like this make me smile and are much appreciated (though I don't personally create much of the artwork as building the site, maintaining it, adding features, fixing bugs, trying to get 3rd parties interested in the site, etc sucks up a big portion of my free time).

As for thetvdb.com, technically I am a mod there, though the above pretty much explains why I'm not very active there and I do have a few points to make.

Hikaricore is basically marmite, lots of people love him, lots of people hate him, but he works damn hard, when Hikaricore is a mod you know there are going to be conflicts but the amount of work he does far far far outweighs any of that (he used to be an active mod on fanart.tv as well, but is now pretty much retired from there).

If Scott ever manages to release the new version of the thetvdb site a lot of these issues will be resolved as it will allow things like discussions directly on the show page.

The reason there is no alternative to thetvdb.com is because its a massive challenge, and the forum being distinct from the website causes issues like users wiping out entire records because they think they are wrong, or because they aren't ordered the way the user thinks is correct, and lots of threads repeating the same thing over and over again because noone can be bothered to search first, with the current site there is no way to recover from these destructive actions, which is a big reason why the moderators there get so irate sometimes.

On the other hand the new thetvdb.com site has been around the corner for the last 4 or so years, (fanart.tv has had 3 sites in that time, lol) so when we will actually see a release is hard to say.

Also please don't forget that there are hundreds of other applications using the database that want the correct official listings and don't care if the listings line up with scene releases (99 times out of 100 when a user trashes a record its because the episode they downloaded through usenet or torrent is a scene release and scene releases don't always follow the official listings)

All-thou they site is built with the option for different episode orders ex aired and dvd, I would think it easy to just make a separate community order. This would ensure the best possible user experience.
Alternative scrapers would probably limit the amount of flaming from the admin, calling people idiots/morons etc for trying to give them new ideas that could make the service better.

Scraper for TVrage or IMDB tv would solve most current issues with thetvdb.

Another example of how horrible this site is: Fringe season 2. I have the dvd in my hand and it says 23 episodes on the box! Still, some mod managed to lock it on 22 episodes in the the wrong order.

Anyway, thoughts on the tvrage.com listing? Any examples where it's inconsistent with, say scene releases or similar?

There's a scraper for epguides.com in the repo now. Basically c/p from thetvdb scraper except the episode listing. It doesn't magically fix everything but at least there's an alternative to thetvdb

What does make me giggle here is the fact that the scrapping sites like thetvdb.com are free to almost everybody, Yet some folks still can not be happy about it. And have to mouth off like they was robbed or it was the end of the world. If a tv listing is not to your liking. Then make your own .NFO files to suit your needs. I Myself am very thankful for the thetvdb.com. And the day when thetvdb.com and fanart.tv merge/conjoin/become as one, The better it will be. NOTE.... That is not going to happen as far as I know. But the images at fanart.tv and the show info at thetvdb.com are second to none. The day all that info is held in one easy system, The better it will be.