Thinking about going the xbmc route
#46
Are you sure it uses less power? Cause the amd has no separate GPU card, and this intel needs one so that card uses power too no?
Is it better than the amd setup?

It does support HD-audio and 3d right?
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#47
(2012-08-07, 17:27)Skank Wrote:
(2012-08-07, 17:13)zer0zer0 Wrote: Intel G620 + Nvidia GT430 can be had for as low as ~$60 on Newegg if you are willing to go with openbox/refurbished

If i should set this all up, i probably would need a bigger PSU too than the one i have now (300W) + no openbox/refurbished stuff for me too Smile

No, you don't. 300w is way more than enough power.

I will try to reply to your PM tonight. Way too busy currently to write an adequate thought out response.
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#48
(2012-08-07, 18:46)assassin Wrote:
(2012-08-07, 17:27)Skank Wrote:
(2012-08-07, 17:13)zer0zer0 Wrote: Intel G620 + Nvidia GT430 can be had for as low as ~$60 on Newegg if you are willing to go with openbox/refurbished

If i should set this all up, i probably would need a bigger PSU too than the one i have now (300W) + no openbox/refurbished stuff for me too Smile

No, you don't. 300w is way more than enough power.

I will try to reply to your PM tonight. Way too busy currently to write an adequate thought out response.

ok thx
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#49
I was wondering too,
Say if i can wait with 3d, would i be able to wait with the gpu? (But i do still need HD-audio now!)
Then update later when the time comes, and i have a 3d tv?
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#50
Yes. That's a solid approach. And when you upgrade your tv later to 3d you can get the latest and greatest $30-$50 card at that time and completely refresh your htpc.
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#51
I guess the intel is way slower and no match for amd
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=...40+2.60GHz
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A6-3670+APU
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#52
(2012-08-07, 20:59)Skank Wrote: I guess the intel is way slower and no match for amd
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=...40+2.60GHz
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A6-3670+APU

Well, yeah. What's the point in comparing a 65W TDP dual-core CPU against a 100W quad-core CPU?

Moreso, these kind of comparisons are not even meaningful for HTPC. Faster doesn't mean you get better picture quality or better sounding audio. It's the feature set of the CPU that matters in this regard. After a certain point, faster gets you nothing more than heat and wasted money. You need a CPU that's fast enough for the task not the fastest CPU. If CPU benchmark were the only consideration for HTPC we wouldn't need these forums.

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#53
(2012-08-07, 21:26)Dougie Fresh Wrote:
(2012-08-07, 20:59)Skank Wrote: I guess the intel is way slower and no match for amd
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=...40+2.60GHz
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A6-3670+APU

Well, yeah. What's the point in comparing a 65W TDP dual-core CPU against a 100W quad-core CPU?

Moreso, these kind of comparisons are not even meaningful for HTPC. Faster doesn't mean you get better picture quality or better sounding audio. It's the feature set of the CPU that matters in this regard. After a certain point, faster gets you nothing more than heat and wasted money. You need a CPU that's fast enough for the task not the fastest CPU. If CPU benchmark were the only consideration for HTPC we wouldn't need these forums.

I compare these cause there were people shouting that intel cpus are cheaper and even faster! Guess that hat isnt flying...
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#54
(2012-08-07, 21:26)Dougie Fresh Wrote:
(2012-08-07, 20:59)Skank Wrote: I guess the intel is way slower and no match for amd
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=...40+2.60GHz
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A6-3670+APU

Well, yeah. What's the point in comparing a 65W TDP dual-core CPU against a 100W quad-core CPU?

Moreso, these kind of comparisons are not even meaningful for HTPC. Faster doesn't mean you get better picture quality or better sounding audio. It's the feature set of the CPU that matters in this regard. After a certain point, faster gets you nothing more than heat and wasted money. You need a CPU that's fast enough for the task not the fastest CPU. If CPU benchmark were the only consideration for HTPC we wouldn't need these forums.

WRONG. the A8 will allow me to watch my movies faster than a little ole 65W dinosaur...
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#55
So, you can watch a 2hr movie in 1hr? I don't get it...
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#56
(2012-08-07, 20:59)Skank Wrote: I guess the intel is way slower and no match for amd
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=...40+2.60GHz
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A6-3670+APU

(2012-08-07, 21:29)Skank Wrote:
(2012-08-07, 21:26)Dougie Fresh Wrote:
(2012-08-07, 20:59)Skank Wrote: I guess the intel is way slower and no match for amd
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=...40+2.60GHz
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A6-3670+APU

Well, yeah. What's the point in comparing a 65W TDP dual-core CPU against a 100W quad-core CPU?

Moreso, these kind of comparisons are not even meaningful for HTPC. Faster doesn't mean you get better picture quality or better sounding audio. It's the feature set of the CPU that matters in this regard. After a certain point, faster gets you nothing more than heat and wasted money. You need a CPU that's fast enough for the task not the fastest CPU. If CPU benchmark were the only consideration for HTPC we wouldn't need these forums.

I compare these cause there were people shouting that intel cpus are cheaper and even faster! Guess that hat isnt flying...

Not really getting what you are saying. Seems like you want to use AMD and if that's the case then so be it because as I have said they have a good option for HTPC.

But to compare a $35 dual core 65w CPU against a $95 quad core 100w CPU is really just completely missing the point.

The apples-to-apples comparison is between the A6-3500 triple core and the G530/540/620 dual core. Even then the Intel is the faster CPU for much less money.

I want to love what AMD is doing and support the underdog but there is a reason that AMD is shifting away from the desktop market and getting their butts handed to them by Intel (and has lost a ton of major execs and developers in recent months). I just think the Intel architecture is the better bang for the buck at the moment.
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#57
(2012-08-07, 22:03)Dougie Fresh Wrote: So, you can watch a 2hr movie in 1hr? I don't get it...

Try it...You will be impressed.
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#58
(2012-08-07, 23:39)assassin Wrote:
(2012-08-07, 20:59)Skank Wrote: I guess the intel is way slower and no match for amd
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=...40+2.60GHz
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A6-3670+APU

(2012-08-07, 21:29)Skank Wrote:
(2012-08-07, 21:26)Dougie Fresh Wrote: Well, yeah. What's the point in comparing a 65W TDP dual-core CPU against a 100W quad-core CPU?

Moreso, these kind of comparisons are not even meaningful for HTPC. Faster doesn't mean you get better picture quality or better sounding audio. It's the feature set of the CPU that matters in this regard. After a certain point, faster gets you nothing more than heat and wasted money. You need a CPU that's fast enough for the task not the fastest CPU. If CPU benchmark were the only consideration for HTPC we wouldn't need these forums.

I compare these cause there were people shouting that intel cpus are cheaper and even faster! Guess that hat isnt flying...

Not really getting what you are saying. Seems like you want to use AMD and if that's the case then so be it because as I have said they have a good option for HTPC.

But to compare a $35 dual core 65w CPU against a $95 quad core 100w CPU is really just completely missing the point.

The apples-to-apples comparison is between the A6-3500 triple core and the G530/540/620 dual core. Even then the Intel is the faster CPU for much less money.

I want to love what AMD is doing and support the underdog but there is a reason that AMD is shifting away from the desktop market and getting their butts handed to them by Intel (and has lost a ton of major execs and developers in recent months). I just think the Intel architecture is the better bang for the buck at the moment.

True
The amd triple a6 3500 is comparible with intel g530, and yes intel is then cheaper but, u then have to add a cheap gpu of 40 euro to get a slightly less gpu and then the price is thr same...
If you compare a6 3500 with intel g620, intrl is slightly faster but again you need 40 euro for less gpu. Then you have an intel with slitly better cpu but slightly less gpu but you pay 10 euro more than for the amd
If you compare the a6 3670 (which i was going to use, and some guys are saying intel could be a better match) you will need Even better than i3 2100 and even that one costs way more

So my conclusion is, if you take an amd a6 3500, it comes indeed pretty close and intel is cheaper but when you have to add a gpu its slightly the same... Or even more expensive (with g620) so not worth it

And as soon as you take an amd a6 3670 , intel is no match for amd right now...

If im wrong then give me a good comparison.... But as for now. I dont see any reason to go intel way (and i have no preference for intel or amd)
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#59
(2012-08-03, 17:03)Skank Wrote: Build so far

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Final thoughts on this before i order?

I doubt about the bluraydrive, do i really need it? Right now i dont own blurays nor will i buy one
Or should i take dvddrive? (although i dont own either) but it could be useful for children cds? or should i just wait with the drive.. If times should come i really need one, i can always buy one... then

Doubts about cpu, final thoughts? This quad core or the a6 3500?

The psu, should i consider pico psu? if yes, what would you propose instead of the 300W be quiet?
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#60
Great choice, go for it , for the Cpu i would go for the a6 , only because of the TDP (65 vs 100) , I am running the a4-3400 with a 250w psu , and I have the same motherboard , you can set the fan speed to 1 and its so silent you won;t know your system is running . You ll be happy you went with the all in one APU. when it comes to running XBMC and your media this thing can do it all (and I am running the slower a4 version ) . Unless you watch a lot of Blu-ray , I don't see the need for it , you could invest on a nice keyboard or Flirc receiver for your remote . Hope you enjoy building it like I did .
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