Win TV Out problem
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I am new to XBMC but really really like what I have seen and experimented with to date. My problem is getting quality image transferred to the TV. I have two setups at this point.

SunRoom Setup
Dell XPS200 running Windows XP Media Center Tongue, with XBMC installed over it. Works fine. I can browse using Chrome and run XBMC to watch Hulu and my recorded shows that are stored on my Windows Home V1.0 box. Cisco Wireless 802.11n 300 router and Cisco USB dongle. I get good video from both Hulu and my stored recordings. I don't detect any stopping or hiccups in playing them. I want to connect this to my Panasonic 52" LCD rear projection TV which as 2 - S-Video inputs, 2 - Composite inputs, and 4 - Component inputs. The XPS system has a 225 watt power supply so I have to be cautious on what kind of Video card I put in it. I have tried two PNY - GEForce Low profile cards but I believe they are both dead. Had one working but it quit and the other one would not give me good output. Both have Composite S-Video TV-Out port with dongles to connect via Composit or S-Video. So, I am now looking for suggestions for a Low Profile, Low power video card with TV-Out that I can connect to this TV.

Bedroom
Visio 32" Flat Panel LCD HDTV with S-Video/Component, Composite, HDMI, and VGA inputs. Should be a no brainer but am having issues.
System I am using is an NC6000 HP Laptop with VGA and S-Video out. I have attempted to use OpenElec but could not get into the Linux side to make necessary changes, so redid it using XBMCbuntu. 1. It is very slow. Mouse moves very jerky. I cannot get the video to switch to the VGA port to the TV and S-Video quaility does not meet the WAF requirment. WAF = Wife Acceptance Factor.

I have another nc6000 HP laptop that I have tried and get the same result. S-Video quality is too lacking and I cannot get the video out to switch to the VGA port to the TV. Using the required FN + F4 key does not push the Video to the TV port.

I am looking for:
1. Low power low profile video card with TV Out to Composite if at all possible.
2. A better laptop with good TV out port. I have looked on ebay but way too expensive and not really sure what to look for.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Wife likes the way the XBMC interface looks and with the Flirc Remote control I purchased from Jason, I think she will use it very much....IF,......IF I can get it to work on the TVs.

Thanks
Rich Moberly
Any replies will hit my email box and I will send you my email address if you wish to discuss my options.
Thanks again. This is a really interesting forum by the way.
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#2
I Think this might be useful


http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/3030...phics-card





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#3
Hi bladeds
Thanks for the fast reply. However, the video cards suggested in that thread all had HDMI output ports. The setup I need the Low profile video card for is for the older Panasonic rear projection TV that does not have HDMI input. Only S-Video, Composite, Component. I have not found a cost effective way to get HDMI converted to Composite which is what I would like to connect with.

Did I miss something in that thread.

Rich
PS. Learned a lot about wattage on video cards. so Thanks for that good information.
rich
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#4
my bad, i did not read your thread properly
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HDMI-Audio-Video...453&sr=8-1 can you not just use the hdmi/dvi output and plugin to the component inyour tv. Since they are both digital signals.
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#5
That would work for the sun room tv. I will see if I can find a low profile low watt video card with HDMI out.
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#6
Guess I will go with this video card and cable to connect my Dell XPS 200 to my Panasonic LCD rear projection 52" TV with component in.
Any comments? Suggestions. Criticism? All input appreciated.

EVGA - GeForce 210 1GB DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 Graphics Card

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/EVGA+-+GeFor...&cp=1&lp=4


eForCity - HDMI to 5 RCA Cable - 5Ft - Black

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/eForCity---H...8500998983
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#7
http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/deskto...ifications if you scroll down it says the min power supply is 300w and the card draws 30.5 watts. But that is more than it actually requires, they probably say 300 watts to be safe. But of course there is still a chance it could stop working.
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#8
do you know the models names of the cards you previously had which broke?
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#9
(2012-08-31, 05:37)rmoberly Wrote: eForCity - HDMI to 5 RCA Cable - 5Ft - Black

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/eForCity---H...8500998983

That cable is a scam. There is just no way to easily convert HDMI (which is a digital signal with encryption) to an analog signal. Read the reviews on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/eForCity-HDMI-RCA-...ewpoints=1
I'd not be too terribly concerned about meeting quoted power supply requirements for the video cards. Those numbers are maximum values that the cards draw when all of the their rendering and shading engines are active. Very few of those advanced features are used to display video.
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#10
Thanks for the information from both of you, badeds and GomezAddams.

I will see if I can figure another way to do it then.

The two cards that went bad were:
Both are PCIe X 16

PNY GeForce 6200 Tubo Cache 128mb DDR+DVI+HDTV+TV Out V6200TC-128
S-Video TV-Out is 9 pin and came with S-Video dongle to Component

PNY GeForce 8400GS DDR2 256MB VCG8400SXPB
S-Video has 7 pin TV-Out
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#11
a found on the web PNY GeForce 8400GS DDR2 256MB VCG8400SXPB has a max 71 watt draw.Does your sun room tv not have a dvi input
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#12
no. The Panasonic projection tv only has S-Video, Component and Composite inputs.
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#13
So if HDMI to Component won't work because it is Digital to Analog, Can I get a vga to Component cable and connect it to the VGA port of a good video card. Isn't the DVI port Digital also?

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#14
(2012-09-03, 19:28)rmoberly Wrote: So if HDMI to Component won't work because it is Digital to Analog, Can I get a vga to Component cable and connect it to the VGA port of a good video card. Isn't the DVI port Digital also?

You can convert any video signal to component, but it can't be done with just a cable. There are HDMI to component converters such as this

VGA is analog, but its signals are RGB. Component video expects YPbPr. You can buy adapter boxes.

DVI can be analog (DVI-A) or digital (DVI-D) or both (DVI-I).

You can buy any number of video convert boxes like the one referenced above, but this tends to be an area of "you get what you pay for" (read the reviews at the referenced link). In general, GOOD computer-to-TV converters tend to be expensive.

Your best bet is to just get a video card that has component out. Something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6814129108
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