Win Stutter video playback problem
#1
Mmm
I have a very hard problem to crack
Running win7 and frodo beta 3
Windows settings for ae are all set correctly
Video settings in ati control panel all set up correctly
Video and audio settings in xbmc are set correctly using wasapi
But then it comes
Playing some movies, i tested 10 movies, some which have heavy parts like transformers 3 opening scene, and lots more, all play without slightest hickup in full hd and hd audio..

Then i have 2 concerts also in bluray format namely, u2 live at rose bowl and adele live at royal albert hall
As soon as it starts, it hicks... I dunno why..
And why dont i have this with some other movies
However
If i test it with the same machine, without xbmc but with powerdvd , it plays just fine
When i play it with different machine, win 7 and frodo beta 3 also (nvidia) , all plays fine again

I dunno where to look
Settings are just right...
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#2
You sound very knowledgeable - anything show in the logs?
System: XBMC HTPC with HDMI WASAPI & AudioEngine - Denon  AVR-3808CI  - Denon DVD-5900 Universal Player  - Denon DCM-27 CD-Changer
- Sony BDP-S580 Blu-Ray  - X-Box 360  - Android tablet wireless remote - 7.1 Streem/Axiom/Velodyne Surround System
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#3
http://xbmclogs.com/show.php?id=20045

Cpu usage is around 4-7%
Isnt running out of mem either
I dont get it

Only thing i havent tried is guisettings.xml issue but i cant believe that would fix it
Serious help needed
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#4
I was trying another video, clash of the titans,a bluray but in iso format
Hell, that one isnt even watcheable, but perhaps this is cause its a bluray iso?
Frames dropped from 24fps to 8fps!
I went in windows, and it detected that my amd drivers 12.08 were old and i installed latest 12.10
Problem with this file and the other 2 still remains,

Heres a log of the trial with the mentioned clash of the titans iso file
http://xbmclogs.com/show.php?id=20054
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#5
I do not know if my findings can help.

If I have WASAPI turned on I can play movies with HD-Audio smooth. But AC3 movies are choppy.
If I use DirectSound, movies with AC3 are smooth. But movies with HD-Audiare choppy.

I use 5.1 Analog out to my reciever.

Could it be the same for you?
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#6
(2012-12-10, 10:46)Lasborg Wrote: I do not know if my findings can help.

If I have WASAPI turned on I can play movies with HD-Audio smooth. But AC3 movies are choppy.
If I use DirectSound, movies with AC3 are smooth. But movies with HD-Audiare choppy.

I use 5.1 Analog out to my reciever.

Could it be the same for you?

Nope
For ex adele is also hd-dts track, and in all bluray movies it runs perfect... Then why not with adele and u2 too?
I can live with clash of the titans not running cause that can be cause its a br iso file.. Im gonna unzip that one and change format, but adele and u2 should just run...
It sucks!
I need help..
Lol
I'm having 2 problems with xbmc and i dont see a way out.. This one and (not importing library from mysql, different topic)
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#7
Have you try to select speaker configuration in Frodo to 7.1? I noticed when playback 5.1 audio codec in the 2.1 system it stuttering/choppy like crazy, but it playback very smooth when I set it to 7.1 in Frodo. The AVR seem to decode and process it correctly with the 7.1 speaker configuration.....
>Alienware X51- do it all HTPC
>Simplify XBMC configurations
>HOW-TO Bitstreaming using XBMC
I refused to watch movie without bitstreaming HD audio!
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#8
No havent tried that yet
My setup is 5.1 so its setup as 5.1
Will try as 7.1 (in xbmc)
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#9
(2012-12-10, 17:41)Skank Wrote: No havent tried that yet
My setup is 5.1 so its setup as 5.1
Will try as 7.1 (in xbmc)
It seems weird, but it didn't work when I selected 2.1 in Frodo for my bedroom speaker system is 2.1. It worked with 7.1 speaker configuration in Frodo, and it seem to bitstream the HD audio codec to my AVR fine. As long it work, I'm okay with that.......

Oh, one more thing. I selected "stereo" and exclusive mode is enabled in Windows control panel .....

>Alienware X51- do it all HTPC
>Simplify XBMC configurations
>HOW-TO Bitstreaming using XBMC
I refused to watch movie without bitstreaming HD audio!
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#10
Tried all, nothing helps...
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#11
(2012-12-10, 21:14)Skank Wrote: Tried all, nothing helps...

I guess you tried it, but I'll ask anyway... did you try without DXVA2?

Another thing I noticed with choppy playback after a Frodo upgrade was when I exit XBMC again, went to my audio properties, changed to another speaker setup, exit the properties, started XBMC, fiddled a little with the audio settings, exit XBMC, corrected the audio setup in windows again, started XBMC, set all audio correctly as in windows. That made it work for me last time.

Nvidia Shield 2017
Kodi 20.3
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#12
(2012-12-10, 23:42)goAMinD Wrote:
(2012-12-10, 21:14)Skank Wrote: Tried all, nothing helps...

I guess you tried it, but I'll ask anyway... did you try without DXVA2?

Another thing I noticed with choppy playback after a Frodo upgrade was when I exit XBMC again, went to my audio properties, changed to another speaker setup, exit the properties, started XBMC, fiddled a little with the audio settings, exit XBMC, corrected the audio setup in windows again, started XBMC, set all audio correctly as in windows. That made it work for me last time.

Yup tried all that
I really dont see whats wrong
It plays fine with powerdvd...
Anyone sees anything in the posted log?
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#13
I notice that Clash of the Titans file is VC-1 video, have you checked the media details of all the files that don't play properly? could they all be VC-1?
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#14
Clash of titans is iso and indeed VC1

Adele is :
Algemeen
ID : 0 (0x0)
Volledige naam : \\UNRAID\Concerten\Adele\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
Formaat : BDAV
Formaat/Info : Blu-ray Video
Bestandsgrootte : 21,9 GiB
Duur : 1h 39mn
Totale bitratemodus : Variabel
Totale bitrate : 31,6 Mbps
Maximale Totale bitrate : 48,0 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu-ID : 1 (0x1)
Formaat : AVC
Formaat/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Formaatprofiel : [email protected]
Formaatinstellingen, CABAC : Ja
Formaatinstellingen, ReFrames : 4 frames
Format_Settings_GOP : M=3, N=24
Codec-ID : 27
Duur : 1h 39mn
Bitrate-modus : Variabel
Bitrate : 28,5 Mbps
Maximale bitrate : 35,0 Mbps
Breedte : 1 920 pixels
Hoogte : 1 080 pixels
Beeldverhouding : 16:9
Framerate : 29,970 fps
Standaard : NTSC
ColorSpace : YUV
ChromaSubsampling : 4:2:0
BitDepth/String : 8 bits
Scansoort : MBAFF
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.458
Stroomgrootte : 19,8 GiB (90%)
colour_primaries : BT.709
transfer_characteristics : BT.709
matrix_coefficients : BT.709

Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu-ID : 1 (0x1)
Formaat : DTS
Formaat/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Formaatprofiel : MA / Core
Muxingmodus : Stream extension
Codec-ID : 134
Duur : 1h 39mn
Bitrate-modus : Variabel
Bitrate : 1 579 Kbps / 1 510 Kbps
Kanaal(en) : 6 kanalen
Kanaalposities : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Samplerate : 48,0 KHz
BitDepth/String : 16 bits
Compression_Mode/String : / Lossy

Audio #2
ID : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu-ID : 1 (0x1)
Formaat : AC-3
Formaat/Info : Audio Coding 3
Format_Settings_ModeExtension : CM (complete main)
Formaatinstellingen, Endianness : Big
Codec-ID : 129
Duur : 1h 39mn
Bitrate-modus : Constant
Bitrate : 224 Kbps
Kanaal(en) : 2 kanalen
Kanaalposities : Front: L R
Samplerate : 48,0 KHz
BitDepth/String : 16 bits
Stroomgrootte : 159 MiB (1%)








U2 is
Algemeen
ID : 1 (0x1)
Volledige naam : \\UNRAID\Concerten\U2 - 360 Degrees At The Rose Bowl\00000.m2ts
Formaat : BDAV
Formaat/Info : Blu-ray Video
Bestandsgrootte : 14,3 GiB
Duur : 2h 9mn
Totale bitratemodus : Variabel
Totale bitrate : 15,8 Mbps
Maximale Totale bitrate : 35,5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu-ID : 1 (0x1)
Formaat : AVC
Formaat/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Formaatprofiel : [email protected]
Formaatinstellingen, CABAC : Ja
Formaatinstellingen, ReFrames : 3 frames
Format_Settings_GOP : M=4, N=24
Codec-ID : 27
Duur : 2h 9mn
Bitrate-modus : Variabel
Bitrate : 10,9 Mbps
Nominale bitrate : 7 080 Kbps
Maximale bitrate : 35,0 Mbps
Breedte : 1 920 pixels
Hoogte : 1 080 pixels
Beeldverhouding : 16:9
Framerate : 29,970 fps
ColorSpace : YUV
ChromaSubsampling : 4:2:0
BitDepth/String : 8 bits
Scansoort : MBAFF
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.175
Stroomgrootte : 9,79 GiB (69%)
Gebruikte encoderbibliotheek : x264 core 96 r1613 81e75e9
Instellingen codering : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=tff / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / weightp=0 / keyint=24 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=25 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=7080 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=35000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / ip_ratio=1.10 / aq=1:1.00 / nal_hrd=vbr

Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu-ID : 1 (0x1)
Formaat : PCM
Formaatinstellingen, Endianness : Big
Formaatinstellingen, Sign : Signed
Muxingmodus : Blu-ray
Codec-ID : 128
Duur : 2h 9mn
Bitrate-modus : Constant
Bitrate : 2 304 Kbps
Kanaal(en) : 2 kanalen
Kanaalposities : Front: L R
Samplerate : 48,0 KHz
BitDepth/String : 24 bits
Stroomgrootte : 2,08 GiB (15%)
Taal : Engels

Audio #2
ID : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu-ID : 1 (0x1)
Formaat : AC-3
Formaat/Info : Audio Coding 3
Format_Settings_ModeExtension : CM (complete main)
Formaatinstellingen, Endianness : Big
Codec-ID : 129
Duur : 2h 9mn
Bitrate-modus : Constant
Bitrate : 448 Kbps
Kanaal(en) : 6 kanalen
Kanaalposities : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Samplerate : 48,0 KHz
BitDepth/String : 16 bits
Stroomgrootte : 415 MiB (3%)
Taal : Engels

Audio #3
ID : 4354 (0x1102)
Menu-ID : 1 (0x1)
Formaat : DTS
Formaat/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Formaatprofiel : MA / Core
Muxingmodus : Stream extension
Codec-ID : 134
Duur : 2h 9mn
Bitrate-modus : Variabel
Bitrate : 1 561 Kbps / 1 510 Kbps
Kanaal(en) : 6 kanalen
Kanaalposities : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Samplerate : 48,0 KHz
BitDepth/String : 24 bits
Compression_Mode/String : / Lossy
Taal : Engels







So both adele and u2 are AVC
gonna test clash of the titans right away cause i pulled it out the iso format Wink


Edit: clash of titans isnt problem anymore, i ripped it out of iso and now is playing in full 1080 and hd audio without stuttering

Only those 2 concerts still have probs
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#15
Tried madonna sticky and sweet tour. Which is mkv file and has avc in mediainfo
Same problem... Stuttering..
Can we conclude its a fault?
I dunno?
Next steps i should test?
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