SAT<IP support for PVR

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Hi,

SAT<IP is a new protocol, which defines how DVB-S/DVB-S2 is converted into an IP (RTSP stream) signal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sat-IP

I'm using the Inverto Multibox and it works fine. I created a M3U playlist and there I can select a channel. The advantage for me is, that there is no PC or STB needed. Just this device needs to be in my network and serves up to 4 clients.

But my problem is, that I can only use it in the video part, so EPG, Teletext is lost. I get pure audio and video.

Is there any chance to use it in the PVR part?

This is an example how my playlist looks like:
Code:
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:-1,Das Erste HD
http://192.168.0.18/?src=-1&freq=11494&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,5100,5101,5102,5103,5106
#EXTINF:-1,ZDF HD
http://192.168.0.18/?src=-1&freq=11362&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,6100,6110,6120,6121,6123,6122
#EXTINF:-1,SAT.1
http://192.168.0.18/?src=-1&freq=12545&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,96,255,256,259
With this device, the client has full control to tune and to retrieve the signal.

Cheers,
joeben
(This post was last modified: 2013-02-13 17:53 by joeben.)
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(2013-02-13 17:48)joeben Wrote:  Hi,

SAT<IP is a new protocol, which defines how DVB-S/DVB-S2 is converted into an IP (RTSP stream) signal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sat-IP

I'm using the Inverto Multibox and it works fine. I created a M3U playlist and there I can select a channel. The advantage for me is, that there is no PC or STB needed. Just this device needs to be in my network and serves up to 4 clients.

But my problem is, that I can only use it in the video part, so EPG, Teletext is lost. I get pure audio and video.

Is there any chance to use it in the PVR part?

This is an example how my playlist looks like:
Code:
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:-1,Das Erste HD
http://192.168.0.18/?src=-1&freq=11494&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,5100,5101,5102,5103,5106
#EXTINF:-1,ZDF HD
http://192.168.0.18/?src=-1&freq=11362&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,6100,6110,6120,6121,6123,6122
#EXTINF:-1,SAT.1
http://192.168.0.18/?src=-1&freq=12545&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,96,255,256,259
With this device, the client has full control to tune and to retrieve the signal.

Cheers,
joeben

hello joeben

for epg must you retrieve the rtp packets there are the ts packets inside with all data

regards Kay
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You can install either DVBLink or Dvbviewer, they are both SAT>IP capable, you can then use their respective XBMC PVR-plugins.
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@Kay - So maybe I should also request PID 18 which usually contains the EPG information. I will give it a try.

@Eson - This would be a solution, but I don't want to run another PC in parallel.
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@ amet - very interesting. Thank you very much.
(This post was last modified: 2014-01-11 19:07 by joeben.)
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@amet - Thank you so much. It works like a charm.

I used the Simple IPTV addon and after some configuration it works just perfect. From now on I don't need to have a PC running in my local network to watch TV. My SAT>IP device does all the streaming. :-)

Tested with XBMC 13 alpha11 @ Win7 64bit and Crystalbuntu 2 @ ATV1.
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could you please post

what pvr add on did you choose

Configuration and if in use m3u

thx for your information
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Hi,

I use the "Simple IPTV" addon, as included in the XBMC addons.
https://github.com/afedchin/xbmc-addon-i...imple-Home
I'm located in germany, so I wanted to get german EPG and TV icons. For this I followed the instructions here, to the icons database and the XMLTV EPG.
http://www.xbmcnerds.com/index.php?page=...2&pageNo=1

The configuration of this addon is quite simple, the main part is to edit the M3U list. My Inverto airscreen IDL 400 (http://www.inverto.tv/products/product.p...n=2&id=242) comes directly with a included M3U list, which almost works out of the box. I just editited the file a bit to match it exactly with the XMLTV EPG and the icons.

This is how my M3U list looked after editing.
Code:
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="ARD.de" tvg-logo="ardhd" tvg-name="Das Erste HD" group-title="german",Das Erste HD
http://192.168.0.3/?src=1&freq=11494&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,5100,5101,5102,5103,5106
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="ZDF.de" tvg-logo="zdfhd" tvg-name="ZDF HD" group-title="german",ZDF HD
http://192.168.0.3/?src=1&freq=11362&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,6100,6110,6120,6121,6123,6122
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="RTL.de" tvg-logo="rtl" tvg-name="RTL Television" group-title="german",RTL Television
http://192.168.0.3/?src=1&freq=12188&sr=27500&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,44,163,104,106
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="RTL2.de" tvg-logo="rtl2" tvg-name="RTL 2" group-title="german",RTL 2
http://192.168.0.3/?src=1&freq=12188&sr=27500&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,46,166,128

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(This post was last modified: 2014-01-11 21:12 by joeben.)
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vielen Dank für die Infos ich komme auch aus DE und wäre sehr an der m3u Datei interressiert
ich bekomme es nicht hin direkte streams von meiner triax 400 tss zu bekommen

das einbinden von DVBlink strems und internet streams funktioniert --> warscheinlich weicht der Aufruf der triax 400 noch leicht zu deinem Gerät ab. Das Gerät erzeugt auch keine m3u datei sondern nur ein xml

Kommt EPG dann direkt oder wird der durch ein weiteres Plugin zur Verfügung gestellt?

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i'm form germany to and very interested in the complete m3u file
a still can not start direct stream from triax 400 tss

with DVBlinks it works fine - i expect there is a differend link structure for calling triax 400 streams then you have with your product
how do you get epg direct or is a additional plugin needed?
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@banano - This s how my M3U list looks like.

Code:
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="ARD.de" tvg-logo="ardhd" tvg-name="Das Erste HD" group-title="german",Das Erste HD
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=11494&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,5100,5101,5102,5103,5106
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="ZDF.de" tvg-logo="zdfhd" tvg-name="ZDF HD" group-title="german",ZDF HD
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=11362&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,6100,6110,6120,6121,6123,6122
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="RTL.de" tvg-logo="rtl" tvg-name="RTL Television" group-title="german",RTL Television
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12188&sr=27500&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,44,163,104,106
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="RTL2.de" tvg-logo="rtl2" tvg-name="RTL 2" group-title="german",RTL 2
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12188&sr=27500&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,46,166,128
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="SuperRTL.de" tvg-logo="superrtl" tvg-name="SUPER RTL" group-title="german",SUPER RTL
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12188&sr=27500&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,45,165,120
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="RTLNitro.de" tvg-logo="rtlnitro" tvg-name="RTLNITRO" group-title="german",RTLNITRO
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12188&sr=27500&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,53,173,146
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="Pro7.de" tvg-logo="pro7" tvg-name="ProSieben" group-title="german",ProSieben
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12545&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,97,511,512,515
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="Sat1.de" tvg-logo="sat1" tvg-name="SAT.1" group-title="german",SAT.1
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12545&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,96,255,256,259
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="Kabel.de" tvg-logo="kabel1" tvg-name="kabel eins" group-title="german",kabel eins
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12545&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,98,767,768
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="VOX.de" tvg-logo="vox" tvg-name="VOX" group-title="german",VOX
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12188&sr=27500&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,47,167,136
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="DasVierte.de" tvg-logo="dasvierte" tvg-name="DAS VIERTE" group-title="german",DAS VIERTE
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12461&sr=27500&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,115,2047,2048
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="ProSiebenMaxx.de" tvg-logo="pro7maxx" tvg-name="ProSieben MAXX" group-title="german",ProSieben MAXX
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12545&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,101,1535,1536,37
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="Sat1Gold.de" tvg-logo="sat1gold" tvg-name="SAT.1 Gold" group-title="german",SAT.1 Gold
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12545&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,96,255,256,259
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="Sixx.de" tvg-logo="sixx" tvg-name="SIXX" group-title="german",SIXX
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12461&sr=27500&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,99,767,768
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="Tele5.de" tvg-logo="tele5" tvg-name="TELE 5" group-title="german",TELE 5
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12480&sr=27500&pol=v&msys=dvbs&pids=0,99,1535,1536
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="DMax.de" tvg-logo="dmax" tvg-name="DMAX" group-title="german",DMAX
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12480&sr=27500&pol=v&msys=dvbs&pids=0,108,3327,3328
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="ComedyNick.ch" tvg-logo="nickcc" tvg-name="NICK/CC" group-title="german",NICK/CC
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=11973&sr=27500&pol=v&msys=dvbs&pids=0,420,4101,4102
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="AnixeHD.de" tvg-logo="anixehd" tvg-name="AnixeHD" group-title="german",ANIXE HD
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=10773&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,96,255,259
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="3sat" tvg-logo="3sathd" tvg-name="3sat HD" group-title="german",3sat HD
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=11347&sr=22000&pol=v&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,6500,6510,6520,6521,6523,6522
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="ARTE.de" tvg-logo="artehd" tvg-name="arte HD" group-title="german",arte HD
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=11494&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,5110,5111,5112,5113,5116
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="Kika.de" tvg-logo="kikahd" tvg-name="KiKA HD" group-title="german",KiKA HD
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=11347&sr=22000&pol=v&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,6600,6610,6620,6622
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-logo="ric" tvg-name="RiC" group-title="german",RiC
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12692&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,1009,190,191
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="BR.de" tvg-logo="brhd" tvg-name="BR Sued HD" group-title="german",BR Sued HD
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=11582&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,5200,5201,5202,5203,5206
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="HR.de" tvg-logo="hr-fernsehenhd" tvg-name="hr-fernsehen HD" group-title="german",hr-fernsehen HD
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=10891&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,5350,5351,5352,5353,5356,5354
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="MDRSachsen.de" tvg-logo="mdrhd" tvg-name="MDR S-Anhalt HD" group-title="german",MDR S-Anhalt HD
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=10891&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,5330,5331,5332,5333,5336,5334
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="NDR.de.de" tvg-logo="ndrhd" tvg-name="NDR FS NDS HD" group-title="german",NDR FS NDS HD
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=11582&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,5220,5221,5222,5223,5226
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="RadioBremen.de" tvg-logo="radiobrementv" tvg-name="Radio Bremen TV" group-title="german",Radio Bremen TV
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12422&sr=27500&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,1200,1201,1202
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="rbbBerlin.de" tvg-logo="rbbhd" tvg-name="rbb Berlin HD" group-title="german",rbb Berlin HD
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=10891&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,5310,5311,5312,5313,5316,5314
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="SR.de" tvg-logo="srfernsehen" tvg-name="SR Fernsehen" group-title="german",SR Fernsehen
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12266&sr=27500&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,1300,1301,1302,1303
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="SWR.de" tvg-logo="swrhd" tvg-name="SWR BW HD" group-title="german",SWR BW HD
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=11494&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,5120,5121,5122,5123,5126
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="WDR.de" tvg-logo="wdrhd" tvg-name="WDR HD Koeln" group-title="german",WDR HD Koeln
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12422&sr=27500&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,5500,5501,5502,5503,5506
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="EinsPlus.de" tvg-logo="einsplushd" tvg-name="EinsPlus HD" group-title="german",EinsPlus HD
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=11052&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,5420,5421,5422,5423,5426,5424
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="tagesschau24.de" tvg-logo="tagesschau24hd" tvg-name="tagesschau24 HD" group-title="german",tagesschau24 HD
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=11052&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,5400,5401,5402,5406,5404
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="EinsFestival.de" tvg-logo="einsfestivalhd" tvg-name="Einsfestival HD" group-title="german",Einsfestival HD
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=11052&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,5410,5411,5412,5413,5416,5414
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="ZDFinfo.de" tvg-logo="zdfinfohd" tvg-name="ZDFinfo HD" group-title="german",ZDFinfo HD
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=11347&sr=22000&pol=v&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,6700,6710,6720,6721,6723,6722
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="ZDFneo.de" tvg-logo="zdfneohd" tvg-name="zdf_neo HD" group-title="german",zdf_neo HD
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=11362&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,6300,6310,6320,6321,6323,6322
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="ZDFtheater.de" tvg-logo="zdfkulturhd" tvg-name="zdf.kultur HD" group-title="german",zdf.kultur HD
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=11362&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,6400,6410,6420,6421,6423,6422
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="BRalpha.de" tvg-logo="br-alpha" tvg-name="BR-alpha" group-title="german",BR-alpha
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12266&sr=27500&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,1400,1401,1402,1403,1406
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="phoenix.de" tvg-logo="phoenixhd" tvg-name="PHOENIX HD" group-title="german",PHOENIX HD
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=11582&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,5260,5261,5262,5263
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="NTV.de" tvg-logo="n-tv" tvg-name="n-tv" group-title="german",n-tv
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12188&sr=27500&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,48,169,73
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="N24.de" tvg-logo="n24" tvg-name="N24" group-title="german",N24
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12545&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,99,1023,1024
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="'Euronews.nws" tvg-logo="euronews" tvg-name="EuroNews" group-title="german",EuroNews
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12227&sr=27500&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,260,2432,2433,2434,2435,2436,2437,2438,2439,2440,2441,2442
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="Sport1HD.de" tvg-logo="sport1" tvg-name="SPORT1" group-title="german",SPORT1
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12480&sr=27500&pol=v&msys=dvbs&pids=0,103,1023,1024
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="Eurosport.de" tvg-logo="eurosport" tvg-name="Eurosport" group-title="german",Eurosport Deutschland
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12227&sr=27500&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,280,101,103
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="ServusHD.de" tvg-logo="servustvhd" tvg-name="ServusTV HD" group-title="german",ServusTV HD Deutschland
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=11302&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs2&pids=0,110,4920,4921,4922,4923
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="VivaGermany.de" tvg-logo="viva" tvg-name="VIVA Germany" group-title="german",VIVA Germany
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=11973&sr=27500&pol=v&msys=dvbs&pids=0,416,4061,4062
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="DeLuxeMusic.de" tvg-logo="deluxemusic" tvg-name="DELUXE MUSIC" group-title="german",DELUXE MUSIC
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12148&sr=27500&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,99,3327,3328,3331
#EXTINF:-1 tvg-id="go.tv" tvg-logo="gotv" tvg-name="GoTV" group-title="german",GoTV
http://192.168.1.15/?src=1&freq=12663&sr=22000&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,1102,1020,1021
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Another option I'm playing with, is RTSP streaming instead of HTTP. But for now I did not succeed in playing anything in RTSP.
My link is fine, I checked this with VLC player.

example:
Code:
rtsp://192.168.1.15:554/?src=1&freq=12188&sr=27500&pol=h&msys=dvbs&pids=0,44,163,104,106
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i am not able to create a link working with vlc not http or rtsp
thats my problem --> i thoght sap -ip is a standard and my sat ip app on iphone works out off the box

but your links with my ip have no effect on xbmc and vlc - so im looking for the difference

this is al line out of channels xml of triax 400 tss

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><channelTable msys="DVB-S"><channel number="1"><tuneType>DVB-S-AUTO</tuneType><visible>true</visible><type>tv</type><name>Das Erste HD</name><freq>11493</freq><pol>h</pol><sr>22000</sr><src>1</src><pids>0,5101,5102,5103,5101,5100</pids></channel><channel
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Sorry to say, I'm not familiar with the XML format and don't know why my M3U list is not working in your place.
SAT>IP is an open standard but M3U support is described as "should" in the latest SAT>IP specifications.
Quote:Extended M3U Channel List
SAT>IP RTSP unicast clients should and SAT>IP IGMP multicast clients shall support the extended M3U
playlist file format for acquiring information about available streams.
So it seems as your SAT>IP server is just following the minimum requirements and does not support M3U lists. Since my list is following the specifications.

SAT>IP specs (page 63)
http://www.satip.info/sites/satip/files/...on_1_2.pdf
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