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I'm excited too. I'm glad I keep putting off upgrading my hardware.
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2013-09-12, 14:42
(This post was last modified: 2013-09-12, 14:51 by Robotica.)
Yes, like Dougie says: you should look for baytrail-d(esktop) instead of baytrail-t(ablet). This Z-series (baytrail-t) doesn't even offer SATA. For HTPC-usage, the mentioned J-series (and maybe M(obile)) series are better candidates.
Don't except retail-availibilty anytime soon; besides that Wibtek board (selected to show off at IDF), none of the normal mobo-designers announced a mini-ITX board yet. My guess is that this will take another couple of months.. (besides I think the lower-end Haswells (Celeron/Pentium) are more intersting as a platform for HTPC's)
So I'm not so excited: For mobile they just don't compete current ARM and for desktop(and HTPC) Haswell is much better.
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2013-09-12, 14:53
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(2013-09-12, 14:50)Dougie Fresh Wrote: I think what intrigues me most about Bay Trail-D is that they are, according to Intel, supposed to be fanless. A fanless quad-core SoC mini-ITX motherboard with Intel HD graphics is something that would make me very happy.
Yes that's nice but the trade off is HD-2500 performance vs HD-4x00. Easy choice for me. (btw: That Wibtek showcase wasn't passive). If Intel had put in a HD-4x00 they could scrap all their announched low-end Haswell's. Due to Intel preferring to sell higher margin Haswell's above Bay trail ATOMS, they leave some room for AMD Kabini to hit the sweet spot for perfect HTPC's.
(2013-09-12, 14:51)Christer K Wrote: *Awaiting mid-october*
Retail availibility? No way, since there aren't even announched mini-itx mobo's that can host Bay Trail Atom. January 2014 seems more realistic.
Only change is a smart OEM, which builds a HTPC board around a mobile Bay-Trail but that would be probably soldered and unlikely to happen.
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I am more than somewhat doubtful you're going to find a tablet processor off-the-shelf to build a mini HTPC with unless you yourself are an OEM and have the facilities to build such a thing yourself. DIY HTPC it's not going to happen.
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Some of the early benchmarks I've been looking at, the Z3770 actually comes close to the i3-3217U. How crazy is that? It also beats up on the A4-5000 (Kabini).
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Intel displace ARM
Qualcomm snapdragon 600 for < $20. And that outperforms Bay Trail T on power, GPU and is similar in CPU. Besides, it's available.
So technically Intel won't be even on par with ARM when Broadwell (Haswell on 14nm) arrives somewhere in 2014, since ARM already released their Cortex A50-series (20nm) by then. So they can take some market share from ARM but given Intel's pricing, it will only be high-end Windows based products.
Welcome to the era of good enough computing, where performance per dollar is king. Even if Intel would be competetive on price, it's a large decision for OEM's to switch their offerings to Intel so Intel needs to be better and have similar pricing before that happens.
It will be the other way around: You will see nice ARM based desktop (lower-end) arrive which will displace market share from Celeron and Pentium. Just what is happening with HTPC now.