[nickr]

You should reboot after upgrading, then run the upgrader again to get 14.04, then re-add your PPAs and do an upgrade and final reboot. Reinstalling from scratch is for Windows users who don't know better.

While I agree that should be the case, many years of using ubuntu makes me wary of updating from one release to another.

[nikotime]

I'm on 14.04 (Lubuntu + XBMC Unstable PPA) and everything works fine including remote. Give it a try.

I shall if I can! Just would be great if I can do it by upgrading rather than a fresh install, despite the very evident caveats with upgrading, especially if I have done something wrong previously.

[Wozza_au]

Hi
I updated via this tut (post 8) http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=197348
when doing the last bit I needed to add
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:team-xbmc/ppa
so instead of
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get --only-upgrade install xbmc xbmc.bin

I did
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:team-xbmc/ppa
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get --only-upgrade install xbmc xbmc.bin

so far bar some little oops's its working fine

[nikotime]

Unfortunately I get stuck on the first hurdle, with sudo do-release-upgrade finding no valid mirrors, despite everything mentioning saucy and receiving this at the start

Get:1 Upgrade tool signature [198 B]
Get:2 Upgrade tool [1,201 kB]
Fetched 1,201 kB in 0s (0 B/s)
authenticate 'raring.tar.gz' against 'raring.tar.gz.gpg'
extracting 'raring.tar.gz'
[screen is terminating]

[Wozza_au]

Hi
Maybe your mirrors are down or having issues..... have a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
and/or this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeProblems

[Gombeek]

You should reboot after upgrading, then run the upgrader again to get 14.04, then re-add your PPAs and do an upgrade and final reboot. Reinstalling from scratch is for Windows users who don't know better.

While I agree that should be the case, many years of using ubuntu makes me wary of updating from one release to another.

i couldn't agree more, especially when it is on a dedicated xbmc htpc without anything important saved to the device.

[negge]

Check what version you have using "lsb_release -a", then adjust your sources.list to use that name accordingly (e.g. if lsb_release says you're on Quantal but sources.list contain "raring", change that to "quantal"). Something is definitely wrong with your sources.list (maybe an earlier upgrade went bad?) which is why it can't continue.

[nikotime]

Thanks negge, lsb_release -a stated quantal and my sources.list contained everything 'saucy'. Upon changing all mentions of saucy to quantal it still unfortunately does not update. Errors I receive include:


Get:29 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/main Translation-en [660 kB]
Get:30 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/main Translation-en_GB [96.4 kB]
Err http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/multiverse Translation-en_US

Get:31 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/multiverse Translation-en [100 kB]
Get:32 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/multiverse Translation-en_GB [80.7 kB]
Err http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/restricted Translation-en_US

Get:33 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/restricted Translation-en [2,575 B]
Get:34 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/restricted Translation-en_GB [2,406 B]
Err http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/universe Translation-en_US

Get:35 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/universe Translation-en [3,646 kB]
Get:36 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/universe Translation-en_GB [5,492 B]
Get:37 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/main Sources [135 kB]
Get:38 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/restricted Sources [2,564 B]
Get:39 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/universe Sources [96.7 kB]
Get:40 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/multiverse Sources [5,269 B]
Get:41 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/main i386 Packages [338 kB]
Get:42 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/restricted i386 Packages [4,841 B]
Get:43 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/universe i386 Packages [221 kB]
Get:44 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/multiverse i386 Packages [12.3 kB]
Err http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/main Translation-en_US

Get:45 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/main Translation-en [172 kB]
Err http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/main Translation-en_GB

Err http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/multiverse Translation-en_US

Get:46 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/multiverse Translation-en [6,931 B]
Err http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/multiverse Translation-en_GB

Err http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/restricted Translation-en_US

Get:47 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/restricted Translation-en [1,477 B]
Err http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/restricted Translation-en_GB

Err http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/universe Translation-en_US



Err http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring-backports/restricted Translation-en_US

Err http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring-backports/restricted Translation-en_GB

Err http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring-backports/universe Translation-en_US

Err http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring-backports/universe Translation-en_GB

Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring/multiverse Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring/universe Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring-updates/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring-updates/main Translation-en_GB
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring-updates/multiverse Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring-updates/multiverse Translation-en_GB
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring-updates/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring-updates/restricted Translation-en_GB
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring-updates/universe Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring-updates/universe Translation-en_GB
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring-backports/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring-backports/main Translation-en_GB
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring-backports/multiverse Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring-backports/multiverse Translation-en_GB
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring-backports/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring-backports/restricted Translation-en_GB
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring-backports/universe Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring-backports/universe Translation-en_GB
Fetched 19.7 MB in 6s (756 kB/s)

Checking package manager
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Building data structures... Done

Calculating the changes

Calculating the changes

Could not calculate the upgrade

An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:
E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

This can be caused by:
* Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu
* Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu
* Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu

If none of this applies, then please report this bug using the
command 'ubuntu-bug ubuntu-release-upgrader-core' in a terminal.


Restoring original system state

Aborting
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Building data structures... Done
=== Command detached from window (Fri Jun 27 10:29:57 2014) ===
=== Command terminated with exit status 1 (Fri Jun 27 10:29:57 2014) ===

[negge]

What happens if you run just "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" does it complain about anything? In general you should make sure your distribution is fully updated before performing a distribution upgrade.

[nikotime]

No complaints, no errors, no updates unfortunately:



Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net quantal InRelease
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net quantal Release.gpg
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal InRelease
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net quantal Release
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates InRelease
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports InRelease
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal Release.gpg
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates Release.gpg
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports Release.gpg
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security InRelease
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal Release
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates Release
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports Release
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net quantal/main i386 Packages
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security Release.gpg
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/main Sources
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/restricted Sources
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/universe Sources
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/multiverse Sources
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security Release
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/main i386 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/restricted i386 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/universe i386 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/multiverse i386 Packages
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net quantal/main Translation-en_US
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/main Sources
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net quantal/main Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/main Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/main Translation-en_GB
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net quantal/main Translation-en_GB
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/multiverse Translation-en
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/restricted Sources
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/multiverse Translation-en_GB
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/restricted Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/restricted Translation-en_GB
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/universe Sources
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/universe Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/universe Translation-en_GB
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/main Sources
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/restricted Sources
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/universe Sources
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/multiverse Sources
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/multiverse Sources
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/main i386 Packages
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/main i386 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/restricted i386 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/universe i386 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/multiverse i386 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/main Translation-en
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/restricted i386 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/multiverse Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/restricted Translation-en
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/universe i386 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/universe Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports/main Sources
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/multiverse i386 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports/restricted Sources
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports/universe Sources
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports/multiverse Sources
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports/main i386 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports/restricted i386 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports/universe i386 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports/multiverse i386 Packages
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/main Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports/main Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports/multiverse Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports/restricted Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports/universe Translation-en
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/multiverse Translation-en
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/restricted Translation-en
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/universe Translation-en
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/multiverse Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal/universe Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/main Translation-en_GB
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/multiverse Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/multiverse Translation-en_GB
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/restricted Translation-en_GB
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/universe Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates/universe Translation-en_GB
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports/main Translation-en_GB
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports/multiverse Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports/multiverse Translation-en_GB
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports/restricted Translation-en_GB
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports/universe Translation-en_US
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports/universe Translation-en_GB
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/main Translation-en_GB
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/multiverse Translation-en_US
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/multiverse Translation-en_GB
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/restricted Translation-en_GB
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/universe Translation-en_US
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/universe Translation-en_GB
Reading package lists... Done
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

[black_eagle]

You can, install from the 14.04 installer disc, choose the 'something else' option at the 'where do you want to install ubuntu?' screen and install over the top. Provided you use the same username/password combo, all the data in your home directory should be preserved. Last time I did this on a system, even though it tells you that /usr /etc /bin will be overwritten, the installer does attempt to backup your installed software beforehand.

Sadly, that bit doesn't work too well (or it didn't for me) and it doesn't back up any config files at all so if you have NFS exports, samba shares or Apache configs etc you should back them up before attempting this.

It's probably not the linux way of sorting the issue, but it worked for me at the time.

[nikotime]

Thanks black_eagle, shall try and give that a go. Do I need to find a 14.04 version of xbmcbuntu or will a 'normal' ubuntu install work? Or ubuntu server?

[black_eagle]

Erm, I did a 'like for like' when installing over the top so in my case that was ubuntu desktop. As I say though, back up any config files you may have, as I missed some of mine, and it was a PITA to put them back. Some of the stuff I didn't think of, like my lirc stuff which I had to redo and some custom actions I'd added to init.d

I wouldn't throw ubuntu server on there if I were you as there is no GUI at all, not during or after installation!!

[nikotime]

Will installing ubuntu desktop kill stop my xbmc auto booting, etc? Or affect the performance when compared to my current xbmcbuntu?

[black_eagle]

Whilst a definitive answer would be based on the hardware you are running, I would think it likely that as XBMCbuntu is a deliberately stripped back version of ubuntu, and is designed to be lightweight, that the full desktop experience would impact at least slightly on performance.

Also, yes, you would lose the autostart that XBMCbuntu provides, but this isn't difficult to implement yourself. If you have little or no use for a full desktop experience, then I would certainly recommend XBMCbuntu over the desktop version. If your PC is going to be used for day to day activities such as browsing, email and the like, then obviously the desktop version is the way to go.

It really depends on your personal needs, and how 'appliance like' you want the PC to be. Plus, in my opinion, if you are installing over the top of an OS with the intention of keeping all your personal stuff, 'like for like' is the safer option.

Finally, remember that you can always install stuff to XBMCbuntu should you decide you need it and often that is easier than trying to remove something from the desktop version, which can break something else in the process.