hdhr-prime, dlna/upnp and FF&RW
#1
I'm experimenting with dlna addressing to do live-tv streams with an hdhrprime - bypassing wmc's sbe engine for a change. The nice part is a quick and dirty hack shows that it works, but I noticed I can't fast forward and rewind the stream. So I compared it to adding the tuner as a upnp video source in xbmc and I can't ff or rw there either - they behave the same (which is good I guess).

For those of you who use this, am I doing something wrong? Googling has not given me a clear answer as to whether these features should work.

Any info would be appreciated.
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#2
Haha. This can't be serious. I just posted about something similar to that. My best guess is because there isn't any buffer. I am basing this on the fact when i open a channel on window media player there aren't any buffer. It seems to play the stream as it gets it.
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#3
That's what I figured too, but then I thought its possible xbmc could buffer.
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#4
(2014-08-26, 17:26)krustyreturns Wrote: That's what I figured too, but then I thought its possible xbmc could buffer.
It will buffer if you set buffermode to 1 http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW...ideo_cache not sure if this will allow rw and ff though
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#5
I think WMC does some sort of recording with the stream rather than just play it as it comes. But now I am not so certain about my previous comment. I paused live tv on xbmc using upnp and WMP and when I pressed play it resumed from where i left off. It must be caching it somewhere. Where? I have no idea. Google returns nothing relevant so far.

(2014-08-26, 18:02)Dilligaf Wrote:
(2014-08-26, 17:26)krustyreturns Wrote: That's what I figured too, but then I thought its possible xbmc could buffer.
It will buffer if you set buffermode to 1 http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW...ideo_cache not sure if this will allow rw and ff though

I would also suggest setting cachemembuffersize to 0 and see if you can rw and ff. 0 would force it to cache on the local drive and perhaps that may enable them. Not home so i can't test it. But I know I already have it setup like that at home to prevent buffering issues on wifi.
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#6
I played with pause little too, it seems to work for a while but if you keep it paused for too long it breaks - but I take your point if it can pause at all its getting cached somewhere. I will look at the buffer settings, thanks guys.
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#7
With these buffer settings and just playing streams using the hdhr as a video source, I can pause for a long period and then fast forward, but I can never get rewind to work. Strangely if I try and rewind, if fast forwards instead (or I am losing my mind). If anyone finds out how to get ff and rw to work, please let me know.
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#8
(2014-08-26, 18:25)krustyreturns Wrote: I played with pause little too, it seems to work for a while but if you keep it paused for too long it breaks - but I take your point if it can pause at all its getting cached somewhere. I will look at the buffer settings, thanks guys.

Yeah man. Anything we can do to help.

(2014-08-26, 19:37)krustyreturns Wrote: With these buffer settings and just playing streams using the hdhr as a video source, I can pause for a long period and then fast forward, but I can never get rewind to work. Strangely if I try and rewind, if fast forwards instead (or I am losing my mind). If anyone finds out how to get ff and rw to work, please let me know.

In order to get fast forward to work you will always need to pause the stream anyway. It doesn't matter which software is being used. I think it is using the storage temporarily as explained on the wiki but rewind should work as well since the cache gets deleted when the video is stopped not paused. I will do some testing when I get home. And keep your head up man. You helped me earlier when I thought I was loosing it and now I am here to return the favor Big Grin

Quote:we can use the local disk memory (typically your hard drive), which will not put any limit on the size (outside of the size of your drive). This also allows devices with low RAM, such as the Raspberry Pi, to cache more than they normally would due to the small amount of RAM they have. The cache is deleted from the local disk whenever playback is stopped.
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#9
Here are my findings. When rewind is hit the seekbar seems to go backward while the player continues to play the current stream.
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#10
Yeah I see the same. But if you pause the stream for some time, like say 5 minutes, hitting rewind seems to fast forward. Or I am on drugs again.
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#11
I will need to test that again and report back. I paused it for one min. Also it was ff was very pixelated. Was it for you as well?
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#12
It seemed like if I paused for long enough FF was fairly well behaved, but I did see the video corruption that you are talking about, but for me though mostly when I tried to rewind.
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#13
Any progress on this? I think you may have to create your own backend and pvr in other to accomplish this. But both would have to be running on xbmc thought. All in one. But the recording could be done on a shared drive. That would be brilliant. Look at this video of hdhomerun and TV Guide setup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-avJPRC...ZPUNeGJKjQ
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#14
Creating our own backend is not going to happen. This dlna option will only be used for live-tv streams.
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#15
Without rw and ff?
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