2014-11-02, 22:15
removed that butt ugly logo.
2014-11-02, 23:03
But you did understand that there's a brand named Kodi registered with that logo in Germany.
2014-11-02, 23:34
(2014-11-02, 23:03)HeresJohnny Wrote: But you did understand that there's a brand named Kodi registered with that logo in Germany.Not for media software as I understand it.
2014-11-02, 23:54
(2014-11-02, 23:03)HeresJohnny Wrote: But you did understand that there's a brand named Kodi registered with that logo in Germany.
here you go: http://kodi.wiki/view/Official:Kodi_name...ed_Kodi.3F
An official statement in our FAQ because people keep asking us this exact same question about the exact same chain of stores in Germany. IT IS NOT AN ISSUE. Trademarks only apply to specific markets or categories. This is why Apple computer can't sue some guy with an apple farm called "Bob's Apples", because Apple isn't in the business of selling food.
2014-11-03, 00:06
There's actually many trade marks and designs for the word "kodi" (not including others that just include the string kodi in a longer word).
Six (!) trade marks applications, three of which valid:
- https://oami.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/.../007326945
approved, valid till 20/10/2018. Classes: 2 (Paints), 16 (Paper, cardboard and goods made from these materials) and 35 (Services of retail and wholesale outlets, namely assortment and presentation of the following goods and services: [long list follows]).
- https://oami.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/.../003296571
approved, renewed until 01/08/2023. Class: 36 (Trading in securities, stock exchange services, etc.).
- https://oami.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/.../011602811 (KODi Besser Haushalten)
approved, renewed until 25/02/2023. Class: 35 (Retailing and wholesaling, including via the Internet, via catalogues and via electronic means, in the following fields: [long list follows]).
- https://oami.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/.../003933439
application withdrawn.
- https://oami.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/.../007326846
registration cancellation pending.
- https://oami.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/.../012603676
application opposed on 10/10/2014 (but it may still be registered!).
Ten (!) registered designs:
https://www.tmdn.org/tmview/basicSearch.html?q=kodi#
The European Union is very open and all this information was a 5 min searh away at the website of the Office for Harmonization in the Internal Market
(Trade marks and designs) on https://oami.europa.eu/. If this really comes as new to you then maybe someone should have looked a little deeper... But again, based on my short search, nothing seems to endanger the use of Kodi for software products for the time being.
Six (!) trade marks applications, three of which valid:
- https://oami.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/.../007326945
approved, valid till 20/10/2018. Classes: 2 (Paints), 16 (Paper, cardboard and goods made from these materials) and 35 (Services of retail and wholesale outlets, namely assortment and presentation of the following goods and services: [long list follows]).
- https://oami.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/.../003296571
approved, renewed until 01/08/2023. Class: 36 (Trading in securities, stock exchange services, etc.).
- https://oami.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/.../011602811 (KODi Besser Haushalten)
approved, renewed until 25/02/2023. Class: 35 (Retailing and wholesaling, including via the Internet, via catalogues and via electronic means, in the following fields: [long list follows]).
- https://oami.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/.../003933439
application withdrawn.
- https://oami.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/.../007326846
registration cancellation pending.
- https://oami.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/.../012603676
application opposed on 10/10/2014 (but it may still be registered!).
Ten (!) registered designs:
https://www.tmdn.org/tmview/basicSearch.html?q=kodi#
The European Union is very open and all this information was a 5 min searh away at the website of the Office for Harmonization in the Internal Market
(Trade marks and designs) on https://oami.europa.eu/. If this really comes as new to you then maybe someone should have looked a little deeper... But again, based on my short search, nothing seems to endanger the use of Kodi for software products for the time being.
2014-11-03, 00:09
All of which still has absolutely nothing to do with our trademark or with taking down ebay listings.
2014-11-03, 00:11
Has the foundation's trade mark actually been granted or is it lodged and being processed?
2014-11-03, 00:12
Just to add to what Ned Scott said (I wrote my message before I could read his answer), the classes in the Nice Classification that are relevant to Kodi (well, the old XBMC 
) are 9 and 42.
) are 9 and 42.
2014-11-03, 00:25
I think the addons are what make XBMC. That's what people want.
I understand piracy is bad but why start now? Icefilms and navix have been a part of XBMC as long as I can remember granted in the last few years it has grown.
But still seems silly to stop people from selling boxes with XBMC on them. Just because they have addons on them.
I love XBMC with or without addons personally but the addons make XBMC more well known.
I guess it just seems like a waste of time and from a long time XBMC user here makes me think a bit self righteous
Why would you not want people selling XBMC on eBay? Is it not great for the community the more who use it?
I understand piracy is bad but why start now? Icefilms and navix have been a part of XBMC as long as I can remember granted in the last few years it has grown.
But still seems silly to stop people from selling boxes with XBMC on them. Just because they have addons on them.
I love XBMC with or without addons personally but the addons make XBMC more well known.
I guess it just seems like a waste of time and from a long time XBMC user here makes me think a bit self righteous
Why would you not want people selling XBMC on eBay? Is it not great for the community the more who use it?
2014-11-03, 00:30
2014-11-03, 00:43
(2014-11-03, 00:25)ilovemymac Wrote: I think the addons are what make XBMC. That's what people want.
I understand piracy is bad but why start now? Icefilms and navix have been a part of XBMC as long as I can remember granted in the last few years it has grown.
But still seems silly to stop people from selling boxes with XBMC on them. Just because they have addons on them.
I love XBMC with or without addons personally but the addons make XBMC more well known.
I guess it just seems like a waste of time and from a long time XBMC user here makes me think a bit self righteous
Why would you not want people selling XBMC on eBay? Is it not great for the community the more who use it?
We don't think piracy is bad. We think that (among other reasons) other people think piracy is bad, and that those people would make our lives miserable if they think we're supporting piracy, even if we're not. It's a shitty situation, but that's how the real world works.
We, as Team Kodi and/or the XBMC Foundation, have no opinion on piracy. We have no stance on the issue. We do not think it is immoral or great. Even if we did, laws are different in different areas, and we're not interested in policing the end user.
Even if we were pro-piracy, IceFilms and Navi-X quality is horrible. I mean if you're going to pirate, pirate something with decent quality that doesn't make your eyes bleed.
Even if those add-ons were using high quality video, the number of confused users who think XBMC is a video streaming site is enough of a support burden to drive some people away from helping out in the community. How many posts do we have to deal with when people go "Why is XBMC down?" or "Why isn't the new Transformers movie out on XBMC?" and crap like that?
We are not synonymous with those add-ons. They don't add any value to the program, not even for pirates (seriously, don't make me spell out how to pirate the right way. It's so easy and doesn't involve any shittastic file locker sites.).
This is like saying that Mozilla shouldn't be mad if people were successfully marketing FireFox as only being for porn. You don't think that wouldn't bother them? That wouldn't be an issue for their sponsors, partners, or even the families of the people who work there? Does porn make Fire Fox better? You bet your ass it does. But FireFox is a neutral web browser. It just pulls up whatever you point it to. It's not for or against porn. It's just a browser.
XBMC/Kodi is just a video player for the 10-foot interface (living room with a remote). It doesn't have to be a moral argument for something like this to cause us issues. This isn't a theory, either, as these are actual issues we've been dealing with ever since the Android boom.
EDIT: removed some of the "jesus tap dancing christ" comments. Historians are divided on if he could tap dance or not.
2014-11-03, 01:06
What bad quality? Icefilms has Hd TV shows just like what is brodcast. My issue with all the addons is people who take out a full DD or dts scoundrel I replace it with 96k stereo but still do 1080p. Like the YIFFY guy. He annoys the crap out of me.
Yea I don't get the bad quality but I do see some with high quality releases.
But I use it for my tv shows since I have no cable or satellite. I don't use it for movies.
Yea I don't get the bad quality but I do see some with high quality releases.
But I use it for my tv shows since I have no cable or satellite. I don't use it for movies.
2014-11-03, 01:28
I guess it depends on what you watch. You can get away with starving an HD encode of a lot of bitrate if there isn't a lot of movement or if it's an animated show. Or maybe someone got a good encode on a file locker site with decent speed (or decent speed for that time of day). Most either have to buffer because the file locker sites are too slow, or they try to compensate for the slow speeds by encoding at a lower bitrate. Neither situation sounds particularly convenient to me.
