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2015-06-20, 17:02
(This post was last modified: 2015-06-20, 17:05 by User 272824.)
I've emailed Amazon, asking why they have removed a fully legitimate application from their store, yet still provide for sale apps and hardware that advertise piracy and illegal content.
Also asked if they should also be fined, etc as they are promoting piracy by selling the products
Not sure, but UK users could fill this in
http://www.fast.org.uk/what-piracy/illeg...-downloads and mention Amazon
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Sent to Amazon
Quote:2. Software/Game name:
TVMC, PLEX, XBMC4U, XBMC Media Player, Firefox, Chrome, etc, etc, etc,
3. Describe the question or issue:
I have noticed you have removed a legitimate product (Kodi) from your service because users can use 3rd party add-ons to download pirate products. The software I have listed above is still available on your product list and they too can all be used to download illegal content, so require removing from your store. Some of these products are infringing on the copyright of the original owners of Kodi and thus should not be available.
Also noticed that all the media playback devices you offer allow the download of pirated products and are also reading some of the descriptions even state you can download these. It should also be noted that your own Fire TV and Stick can be used to stream illegal content, the same as Google Chrome and any PC related product you sell.
If you are going to remove a legitimate product because of 3rd party sellers abusing the original product, then their products should be removed.
It should also be noted that every web browser can be used to download illegal content so these also need to be removed from your app store as well
Their reply
Quote:I'm sorry to hear that you're not happy as the app Kodi is no longer available on Amazon Appstore. I apologise for any inconvenience caused.
Unfortunately, I do not have any information on why this app was removed from the website and a lot of factors are considered before removing an app from the website.
To help you with this, I've forwarded this as feedback to the appstore team for consideration as we make future improvements.
This kind of feedback is invaluable to us, as it helps us continue to improve and provide better service to all of our customers.
I appreciate your patience and understanding in this regard. We look forward to seeing you again soon
So have asked them how the relevant authories, etc would be happy that they themselves are promoting piracy but selling products advertising the free stuff
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There, posts deleted. Let this be the end of that weird argument getting out of control.
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But we still don't know why Amazon has rejected Kodi, so maybe change the subject to:
Why has Amazon rejected Kodi?
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There was only one person getting out of control. And apparently him shouting 'FOOK OFF' was enough to get my point removed too.
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I don't care... just both of you shut up about it or I'll ban everyone everywhere and burn the server down.
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Ned, is there anything we, the users can do? Should we try and send emails to Amazon support? I've been a prime customer for many years and I have two fire sticks and an echo, all of which control or run kodi in one form or another
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2015-06-22, 11:10
(This post was last modified: 2015-06-22, 12:05 by harlekin.)
Yes, a media player should put up license agreement screens, even if they are distributed entirely without end user facing licensing at all - because DRM based gating IS the new default, and not only most people are very challenged to understand that there is an entire software development tradition that is profoundly against limiting its use for commercial interests - its also the executives that ar especially challenged by this complex world we live in, and that would very much care for a postit note explaining it to them - which we like conceptually, because really all we want is neverending calmness, and once in a while wave at one of our puppies, when it gets slaughtered.
Hm...
Could you describe to me, as someone who doesnt see anything "naive" or "unintended" in Amazons actions at all, how exchanging open source ideals for fliers that state that we have the right to produce something free and open source, and distribute them without naming it a licensing agreement is solving the problem?
As we speak, Amazon is promoting PLEX on their start page. And Kodi is scrambling to get their public image under control again. Make yourself look better, and hope that you wont get killed off from the next storefront, and the next, and the next -- because there was almost no standing against Amazons move on grounds that it was - hmm, anti competitive and therefore illegal?
Their contractual argument not only was weak it was highly questionable to non existent. The problem being, you have no rights, when it comes to app stores. At all. You are signing all of them away voluntarily so companies get a risk free environment they can develop in any way they want (the Web 2.0 contract). You may make some money from it - yeah, party like its 2015 and everyone STILL tries to get an app to "become viral".
This is really the new gold rush as in - people have rejected any idea of balance of power, consumer rights, and independent analysis in the media - entirely. Go get some makeup, make yourself look pretty - and throw your legs high at the saloon, baby.