High-Definition Video Flagging (library filtering/sorting & skin thumbnails overlay)?

ccMatrix Wrote:To display a XVID or DIVX logo depending on which one was used instead of just using a generic MPEG4 logo for everything. This is about skinning and skinning options not about picture quality.

I think (just making an assumption here) that that was exactly his point... Why would one want to know if a movie was encoded with XviD or DivX? They both are MPEG4, they both produce comparable results, they are practically the same thing, why bother distinguish them? What exactly is the benefit to have a logo for XviD another for DivX as oppsed to have a single logo for MPEG-4?

I don't know how things are done exactly, but for instance, I don't even care if the movie is MPEG-4... All I care is if a movie is SD or HD and if it's HD, if it's 720p or 1080p. This may be just me, but this is the most important info for video files in a library. The coded used is pointless, as long as XBMC plays it, who cares to display the exact codec used for a praticular file in the library? You obviously do, but why exactly? I don't get it...

@freezy
I see what you mean but I don't think there's a way to distinguish DivX movies from 10 years ago compared to the ones we have one. They are still DivX. And nowadays, DivX and XviD is practically the same thing, quality wise... Why bother distinguish them, doesn't an SD label (or something in those lines) suffice?

freezy Wrote:I have quite some DVD rips from like 10 years ago made with DivX SBC, which are okay but not quite as good as what XviD nowadays produces. So it would be interesting to see whether it's DivX or XviD for me anyway.

ccMatrix Wrote:To display a XVID or DIVX logo depending on which one was used instead of just using a generic MPEG4 logo for everything. This is about skinning and skinning options not about picture quality.

Just plain silly

watzen Wrote:Just plain silly

Killer argument. You should become a politician.

Check my edited post then, I made a (valid or not) point lol

freezy Wrote:Killer argument. You should become a politician.

no but seriously, haven't you lost your way in showing every bit of information? The reason for the UI is to present important information for the user, and I don't see how this information can be so important. Isn't the type of codec and resolution more than enough to know the quality? only thing else that could be important is average bitrate or something.

Meglivorn Wrote:I encountered a little prob, I don't know if I did something wrong. The detection lists the subtitle streams double, like:

Also, when I want to write it out with ListItem.SubtitleLanguage it's only give the first sub...
I'm not english native so the info about subs or multiple audio really can be useful.

1) This is a bug, I'll fix that.
2) ListItem.SubtitleLanguage only gives you the "best" stream. This will be the language matching the language you have chosen in XBMC but that isn't implemented yet. You will be able to get information about all of them individually in the future, but the skinning system needs a little updating first so all you get is the first one now.


@XViD vs DiVX vs mpeg4 discussion:
I'm not so keen on differentiating the different encoders.

Thank you then I will just wait. It's already a great improvement, so thanks

CapnBry Wrote:@XViD vs DiVX vs mpeg4 discussion:
I'm not so keen on differentiating the different encoders.

How about just adding another field to the streaminfo table containing the fourcc value and let the skinners take care of it? Would that be much of a hassle?

watzen: I agree that it's not as important as the other info. It just would be nice, that's all.

Easy hit play if its shit its xvid... its it still shit then its xvid if not welcome to h264!!

freezy Wrote:How about just adding another field to the streaminfo table containing the fourcc value and let the skinners take care of it? Would that be much of a hassle?

watzen: I agree that it's not as important as the other info. It just would be nice, that's all.

Yes, maybe representing it as mpeg4/FOURCC or mpeg4-FOURCC - basically just appending the FOURCC value. Skinners can then use either generic mpeg4 images or decide to use encoder based images. And this is what the discussion is all about: What information to make available to skinners!

There is no need to start any discussion about picture/codec quality.