Make library mode work without scrapers as well - import all files into the database?

markiz Wrote:Maby the system doesn't need to be altered at all. Maby the only thing that is needed is a new scraper that "scrapes" info from folders/file names. It could be called "Folder scraper" or "Filename scraper". Or "Default scraper" that looks at the setting "use foldernames when scraping".

I might be wrong here since I'm not a developer, and don't know anything about the inner workings of scrapers.

Did you read my post?

There is something very close to such a thing, it's called Music video NFO scraper.
If a file does not have an associated NFO file it will use the filename. (xxx - yyy may be required).
If you don't have a problem with them being called Music Videos, this could be exactly what you are looking for?

the way to proceed to add this EVIL (imo) "functionality" would indeed be to extend the filename scraping to be supported for movie content

I for one would love to have a "home movies" content type with a filename/nfo based scraper.
I had just decided on waiting for post 8.04 to start badgering the devs

I really like Gamester17's idea and hope it is something that would get implemented in the future.

If it would be easier/quicker to implement, allowing the 'music video' scraper to be utilzed as a fall back for when IMDB or other selected scraper fails, might be a usable alternative.

spiff Wrote:the way to proceed to add this EVIL (imo) "functionality" would indeed be to extend the filename scraping to be supported for movie content

I am not sure why you think this is evil. I think this would be a good step into getting people to who use file mode, into trying/using library mode... especially in content situations as likened by markiz.

I tried searching but is there a request in trac for this yet?

If not I'll make one

why i think it's evil? because it isnt a solution at all - it is just cluttering your library.
the solution is to make the library SUPPORT the content type you want in there.

spiff Wrote:why i think it's evil? because it isnt a solution at all - it is just cluttering your library.
the solution is to make the library SUPPORT the content type you want in there.

Yes, but the problem appears to be, there can never be any (external) scrapers for custom/home/private content... yet this same content, the user may desire to have within the same library context as other publicly accessible media. IE home movies mixed with hollywood movies.

Besides, clutter is in the eye of the user. While some may consider home movies (or other content with no real metadata) mixed in with regular movies to be clutter, others may not.

sure. you asked me for my view. i gave you that.

TeknoJnky Wrote:Besides, clutter is in the eye of the user. While some may consider home movies (or other content with no real metadata) mixed in with regular movies to be clutter, others may not.

A better solution IMO is custom categories. Having Home Movies mixed with 'Real' Movies yet having TV Shows & Music Videos separated is inconsistent, even if you don't consider it clutter.

I created a ticket asking for custom categories here: http://trac.xbmc.org/ticket/4969

rwparris2 Wrote:A better solution IMO is custom categories. Having Home Movies mixed with 'Real' Movies yet having TV Shows & Music Videos separated is inconsistent, even if you don't consider it clutter.

I created a ticket asking for custom categories here: http://trac.xbmc.org/ticket/4969

Good idea, for my own use, I would rather have all videos in one node and use filters when I want to show only 1 category.

Further, it would be sweet you could color code the categories so that they appeared differently while in an 'all videos' view.