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skunkm0nkee · 2008-10-09, 12:30

It's something we're looking into but we're pretty much doing it off our own back as we still haven't had any real specific feedback that we can act on. I had been hoping that some of the users who have complained about the font sizing could have spent a few minutes to detail where the fonts are too small.

For example - I'm running in 720p with Massive font but Plot summary in Episodes view is not big enough.

That is information we can act on, but just saying the fonts aren't big enough is pretty much useless to us.

migueld · 2008-10-09, 18:49

JustMeD and skunkm0nkee thanks for the responses.

To everyone else, lets be more specific with feedback! Wink

migueld · 2008-10-09, 18:54

Regarding the thread that I posted about the current selection not being easy to see: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=37576, any thoughts on that? I think X3lectric also agrees, especially when looking at a distance.

skunkm0nkee · 2008-10-09, 19:48

The main issue is that people want transparency to see the backgrounds and the more background you see the more chance that some backgrounds can interfere with the text. Hopefully the focused item is always more visible?

migueld · 2008-10-09, 22:34

skunkm0nkee Wrote:The main issue is that people want transparency to see the backgrounds and the more background you see the more chance that some backgrounds can interfere with the text. Hopefully the focused item is always more visible?

In the screenshot that I took the other day, the current selection is nicely visible but the rest isn't:

What if you were to keep the opacity of the backgrounds fixed but incresed the opacity of the text:?

In this case the text legibility would be much better while preserving the translucency of the background.

migueld · 2008-10-09, 22:58

Also the other issue we are having is that in some cases the current selection is not easy to see (especially when looking at XBMC from the couch Wink

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migueld · 2008-10-09, 22:59

I'm sorry if I'm placing too much emphasis on the screenshots; I just wanted them to be clear so that there isn't any misunderstanding.

skunkm0nkee · 2008-10-09, 23:03

Not really a font sizing issue but I agree with you, will have a think about how to make that easier to track

migueld Wrote:I'm sorry if I'm placing too much emphasis on the screenshots; I just wanted them to be clear so that there isn't any misunderstanding.

Not at all, screenshots are great and a clear and concise description of the problem is very useful. Thanks

skunkm0nkee · 2008-10-10, 16:02

migueld Wrote:In the screenshot that I took the other day, the current selection is nicely visible but the rest isn't:

migueld Wrote:Also the other issue we are having is that in some cases the current selection is not easy to see (especially when looking at XBMC from the couch ):

Both those issues should now have been addressed for the next release.

Additionally we've done some experimenting with a new default font which will (hopefully) be easier to read on screen.

migueld · 2008-10-10, 19:54

Nice! Does the fix apply to just info windows, or also elsewhere? I'd be great if it applied also elsewhere. It's looking great, thanks for the prompt fix, I didn't think the change would come that soon Smile

migueld · 2008-10-10, 22:09

BTW I love the kind of selection used on the onscreen keyboard. Apart from the nice contrast, the glowing animation is pretty cool.

migueld · 2008-10-10, 22:20

wyild1 Wrote:Morning

Here are a few screenshots

http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image...000ab9.png

http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image...001jk8.png

http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image...009bb0.png

http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image...010kj1.png

http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image...004dy6.png

Hope this helpes!

Cheers!

On those screenshots the font looks very narrow, what kind of resolution and display are you using?

On my machine the font looks different, it's not narrow. I did notice that sometimes if a different resolution is chosen on the settings the font can look narrow. Maybe you just need to adjust the resolution?

wyild1 · 2008-10-13, 19:51

migueld Wrote:On those screenshots the font looks very narrow, what kind of resolution and display are you using?

On my machine the font looks different, it's not narrow. I did notice that sometimes if a different resolution is chosen on the settings the font can look narrow. Maybe you just need to adjust the resolution?

Those are off my xbox, so....whatever the xbox default resolution is set to is the size of those pics. I agree a different res prob would help but its not possible on an xbox (correct me if im wrong!)

Cheers!

neoanderson2002 · 2008-10-14, 08:24

Hi Razorfish team,

I recently upgraded to v0.95 and I like the changes!

I am using output of 1024x768 resolution on a 32" NTSC Tube TV, bigger font selected. The menu items are the right size for legibility and fitting in the skin. I have just a tiny suggestion. I am mostly using videos in file mode using Cover Flow for video sources and Animated Media Preview view for videos. A slight +5 font size in Animated Media Preview would be great for the video file names. Also, when displaying the video OSD, a +5 font size to the video file name would be great as well. I've manually made these changes to font.xml and they look better to me.

Everything else for me seems to be addressed already! Keep up the great work!

Cheers,

-Neo

wyild1 · 2008-10-16, 17:51

Just installed the new skin and the text is a bit more readable. Im at work so i dont have screen shots, but i aggree with neoanderson2002. The font size needs, IMO, to be just slightly bigger. i dunno about +5 cuz i think with my xbox that would cause a bit more scrolling, but +5 could work

Keep up the awesome work! Digging the skin Smile

Cheers!