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Post: #101
@onehiggens/jnecr:

Full debug log please, particularly while you're trying to install it.

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Post: #102
I've been having a couple of issues with XBMC & TMDB, and ive no idea really where the issues stem, but its getting to the point where im wondering if its even worth bothering to add content (not that i add much) on there when its so hit & miss getting it to show in XBMC.

Shortly after Xmas i added a few Football ('Sawker') related season reviews, and getting XBMC to detect them was bizarre. Then someone from the XBMC crew mentioned it needs a release date to even acknowledge it (:confused2: but whatever) so i added that, and its still hit n miss.

Now today ive come to plug the gaps in the F1 season reviews, and its more of the same, and when it does work its extremely selective in what data it sees.
If i search for the 2005 review, it finds it, however it opts not to collect the description & artwork, yet it gets the title and tagline Frown

I've basically added my F1 season reviews from 1990-2010, and ive got random titles like The 51st State (iirc US title is Formula 51?), Murder by Numbers, Formula 17, Kapitalism: Our Improved Formula, & Rules - Pyaar Ka Superhit Formula.
The TMDB search on the website seems quite capable of a decent search, and yet XBMC seems to make a right dogs dinner of it all, like rather than searching for all the terms provided (eg from 'Formula One 2005 Review') it uses Formula and 2005 and decides well rather than it being the EXACT match of one title, its some random foreign film made in 2005 with Formula in the title. But doing a manual search it wont see anything until i trim it down to 'Formula One' where it shows a handful, not not all titles.


It just makes it pointless adding it to the TMDB site if its actually quicker to let XBMC add it as nonsense and then manually edit the information using XWMM and pointing to the artwork i'd upload to TMDB.
As i say, no idea where some things are breaking down in the whole process, it could be a mixture, but its very frustraiting. :o I've no idea if its possible to add entries to the IMDB site like you can TMDB, thats what drew me to it tbh, it looks more friendly and built for things like XBMC (as I understand it is) rather than imdb which looks rather strict and covered in red tape and whatnot.
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Post: #103
The reason is XBMC is interpreting "2005" as the year the film was made, and is likely rearranging things in the search or dropping information after the year (which makes sense for 99% of movie names that folk have - but not all!) The debug log will show you what's going on.

If you can find good test cases with matching logs that would be a good starting point to improving things.

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Post: #104
Yeah, i'd noticed it was using the year in the search and assuming it was the year of release.
The only problem is when:
'Formula One 2005 Review' = 'The Peter Pan Formula (2005)' when 'Formula One 2005 Review (2005)' should be whats found.

Its opted to cherry-pick 2 searchable terms, and despite the TMDB having a perfect match, for 4 from 4 terms (and matching year of release too) its going for a 2 from 4 film which is wrong.
Thats only when leaving XBMC to search for new content, when refreshing it'll usually come up with the incorrect title and sometimes another equally incorrect title. Doing a manual search doesnt like:
'Formula One 2005 Review.avi'
'Formula One 2005 Review'
or 'Formula One 2005'
it only brings results at 'Formula One' and that brings a load of F1 reviews and the usual suspects i dont want to be seeing.
It was exactly the same issue the other month, when trying to add Manchester United season reviews, i'd have to remove the vast majority of possible search terms for it to find anything remotely relevant, but it'd bring junk back. Why wouldnt 'Formula One 2005' work? It should be able to use the year for either title or release and bring at least 1 result, but it doesnt like it, and for the life of me i dont see why.

Log: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20670693/xbmc/xbmc_tmdb1.log

I closed XBMC down, loaded it up and left it to sit for 5min, and then went to update/refresh the 2000 season review, filename also a perfect match for the TMDB title (+ '.avi' extension) and after dumbing it down to get all F1 reviews, i picked the 2000 version and let it go to work. It didnt change anything, still missing poster, background, and description.
http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/90580-fo...000-review

There are errors in the log from it, most notably:
20:41:50 T:7544 ERROR: WebServer: Failed to open special://masterprofile/Thumbnails/Video/Fanart/89cc9bf4.tbn
There is no file of that name, but im not 100% sure what that would be if it existed, and if it was related to the F1 review then i'd equally expect it to fail to open the poster too cos neither exist.
(This post was last modified: 2012-03-07 23:06 by PaulC2K.)
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Post: #105
Just one question about movie certifications. I see that most of the spanish movies don't have their certification and I want to add it in order to be scrapped and displayed on XBMC but, which is the correct format? Here are some possibilities:
  • 18
  • +18

I have checked a lot of movies in order to follow the same structure, but I didn't find any spanish certification...


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Post: #106
I forgot to mention that in Spain, you normally find this kind of certification on the back of DVDs/BDs:

- Apta para todos los públicos
- No recomendada para menores de 7 años
- No recomendada para menores de 12 años
- No recomendada para menores de 16 años
- No recomendada para menores de 18 años

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