Video library redesign idea - How can we improve Smart Playlists, aka Filtered Lists?

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Smartplaylists are similar to search, but are basically saved-searches. The struggle here UI-wise is defining a useful way to incorporate multiple conditions with split boolean operators (i.e. AND and OR in the same search) beyond things like Actor IN (foo,bar) AND Genre IN (foo,bar), and even then it's not necessarily trivial to do.

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It all comes down to tagging (meta data) doesn't it? I mean, I could create a UI that allows you to pick a stored file (video or music file or even a playlist) and input the tags classifying the item selected. The UI would then build an XML file that is compatible with XBMC. But it doesn't spring forth already made unless vendors or 3rd party developers created them. Because if there is no meta data, it basically becomes a straightforward list or word search of the file name or derived from storing the files in categorized folders on the hard drive.

I know working on XBMC is great because almost anything is possible; you can develop so much in every area of the system. However, in the future would it help or hinder development to establish some rules about meta data?
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I would like to be able to have both movies and tv shows in the same playlist.

Numerous series contain both (Star Trek is probably the most most popular that comes to my mind) and Anime series often releases both (or the scrapers 'mislabel' it).
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(2012-03-13 16:05)TheMonkeyKing Wrote:  It all comes down to tagging (meta data) doesn't it? I mean, I could create a UI that allows you to pick a stored file (video or music file or even a playlist) and input the tags classifying the item selected. The UI would then build an XML file that is compatible with XBMC. But it doesn't spring forth already made unless vendors or 3rd party developers created them. Because if there is no meta data, it basically becomes a straightforward list or word search of the file name or derived from storing the files in categorized folders on the hard drive.

I know working on XBMC is great because almost anything is possible; you can develop so much in every area of the system. However, in the future would it help or hinder development to establish some rules about meta data?

I would like to be able to add/utilize search tags in the library (like certain websites use). Including custom search tags to TV SHOWS at the EPISODE LEVEL would help for sorting documentary content.

You have National Geographic, Natural World, Nature, etc. Lets say you wanted to watch something about 'Lions.' You would have to sort through all of the documentary channels individually to find the desired subject matter.
This would of course require me to could edit my .nfo files to add:
<tag>Animals&Wildlife</tag>
<tag>Lions</tag>
(not all episode titles neccesarily contain the tag word ('lions' in this eg.) desired.
Then I could create smart playlists based on the search tags. If there is a way to do this with Smart Playlists that I am not seeing please let me know.
(This post was last modified: 2012-09-02 15:28 by outatouch0.)
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recently got introduced to Smart Playlists and they are awesome, But when leveraged with Voice Control they really become dynamic and really helpful. I think being able to direct find specific things through filtered lists is huge.
Years, studio, genres, actors and combinations thereof is nice.

I know XBMC has never been dev'd with Home Videos in mind, but I loaded mine and every family vacation my family enjoys reviewing vids and the kids love it. I had to manually create NFOs and used mine as TV Shows, but being able to search (videos w/ this nephew and that grandparent or this vacation or 'birthdays' as genres is great)
(If i could get the genres all cleaned up...

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I'm not sure if this strictly falls into your revamp of the library but I would love a hybrid file/library mode which would display both 'matched' and 'unmatched' movies from the scraper, with an easy to see indicator as to which were and were not matched. As it is right now, it's painful to locate those movies that are not matched by a scraper as they simply don't appear at all in the Library view.
(This post was last modified: 2012-09-05 02:13 by DJRumpy.)
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(2012-09-02 00:23)transcender Wrote:  I know XBMC has never been dev'd with Home Videos in mind, but I loaded mine and every family vacation my family enjoys reviewing vids and the kids love it. I had to manually create NFOs and used mine as TV Shows, but being able to search (videos w/ this nephew and that grandparent or this vacation or 'birthdays' as genres is great)
(If i could get the genres all cleaned up...

That's actually not a bad idea that can add some flexibility to a few of us trying to add things like documentaries or ambiance/relaxation videos. Some TLC needed to be correctly incorporated, maybe tricking the category into thinking different subcategories are seasons, but there's somthing to be done to trick the inflexibility of some aspects of videos. Glad we can use .nfo files to prevent scraping those files Big Grin
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Post: #233
Set-up virtual folders, containing what you want, and have it show up as a separate item on the home screen.

This way, I can have a home movies folder, with local stored .nfo, (either setup like TV Show or Movie) and show custom named "Home Movies" on home screen.

Similar to "Media Browser" setup.
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I'd love to see revenue and budget added to XBMC smart playlists -- using them could make filtering independent and foreign films from my lists much easier (for use with PseudoTV, etc.). Right now I use a lengthy (and not fully-inclusive) list of studio and genre keywords to simulate this, but I feel budget/revenue would be far better suited to this kind of task.

The problem? XBMC proper isn't tracking this information that I'm aware of, so no filtering can be performed on it even if playlists supported it. Work would have to start there.

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